Taking the plunge

[littleone09]

I've been working out heavily for about 9 years now. I'm 28 and I can't seem to get bigger no matter what I do, so I am considering my first cycle. I say my first, I tried some test-p about a year and a half ago for twelve weeks and wasnt overly impressed.

I am considering 750mg/week of test, and 500mg/week of deca. I will do this for 16 weeks.

I'm 6'2 235 lbs... 8-10% BF...

Any comments or suggestions would be great. I would love to incorporate some orals into this but cant get my hands on them.

Thanks ahead of time

 

[-SD-]

if your stats are true, you dont need any roids bro. guys would kill for those stats, roids or not.

 

[therugger]

Doses seem high for a first cycle to me, but I'm confused on your post. Is it your first or second cycle. If I'm reading it right you ran a 12 week prop cycle? What do you mean unimpressed, did you get any results, was it real?

 

[littleone09]

Doses seem high for a first cycle to me, but I'm confused on your post. Is it your first or second cycle. If I'm reading it right you ran a 12 week prop cycle? What do you mean unimpressed, did you get any results, was it real?

I'm sure it was real, my doc tested my levels while I was taking it and they were around 2000. I took 100mg every 36 hours.
I just wasnt impressed by the size gains I guess. I gained a little strength and leaned out a bit, but overall I hated the painful injections from the prop ester.
I want to try deca and I read it should be dosed at 2mg per pound of bodyweight. I am using 750 test so I keeop my sex drive. My wife would be pissed otherwise.

 

[mrplunkey]

I'm sure it was real, my doc tested my levels while I was taking it and they were around 2000. I took 100mg every 36 hours.
I just wasnt impressed by the size gains I guess. I gained a little strength and leaned out a bit, but overall I hated the painful injections from the prop ester.
I want to try deca and I read it should be dosed at 2mg per pound of bodyweight. I am using 750 test so I keeop my sex drive. My wife would be pissed otherwise.

250/week it a typical test dose to preserve sex drive when using deca. 750/week is a fairly decent cycle in and of itself.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

The doses are too high.. if you start there what are you going to go to next..

the test prop and being checked by your doctor bit seems like bullshit to me....

if you are 28, your test level are at best the higher range of natural, because you train so much.. natural levels, at their highest are around like 1100ng/dl..

2000ng/dl would have been a clear and pronounced improvement..

I say start with 400mg/week test cypionate only..

If you really want to feel hoss, do 50mg a day of test suspension.. *natural test levels are 2-11mg/day, so think of what 50 could do?*

 

[littleone09]

The doses are too high.. if you start there what are you going to go to next..

the test prop and being checked by your doctor bit seems like bullshit to me....

if you are 28, your test level are at best the higher range of natural, because you train so much.. natural levels, at their highest are around like 1100ng/dl..

2000ng/dl would have been a clear and pronounced improvement..

I say start with 400mg/week test cypionate only..

If you really want to feel hoss, do 50mg a day of test suspension.. *natural test levels are 2-11mg/day, so think of what 50 could do?*

Not sure what you mean by the prop and doctor bit sounding like bull. Seems like that would be a pretty dumb thing to make up. All I said was I was unahppy with the results from the test prop and the painful injections. I have a lot of knee and elbow pain and I want to try the deca to see if it helps with that too. Ive been lifting for awhile without much improvement. I want to see more results than what I got from a test only cycle.

 

[EZ_E]

Too much deca and for way too long……along with the fact that you should run the test 2 weeks longer than deca...

“Can’t seem to get bigger no matter what I do” is usually the battle cry of poor training and/or diet, post up those so we can take a look...

6'2, 235, 10%BF? Those are pretty damn good stats...

Also, where is your PCT????


~EZ

 

[wootoom]

With youre stats bro cut out the Deca and just take Test even at 500mg/ew!!! You will thank me!

 

[wootoom]

Also, do you have PCT figured out?

 

[therugger]

Yeah m ake sure your PCT is in line, if not ask. but if this is your second cycle you don't need that much you will grow amazingly on something like this.

week 1-12 500mg/week test C
week 1-10 400mg/week deca

I like adding Dbol at the beginning and winny at the end while my inject esters clear but that's just me not necessary.

 

[wootoom]

He will grow off 500mg/ew Test..this is his first cycle i think he should tak one compound for a first cycle to explore gains from one compound..just something i did and it worked great for me.

 

[sweed]

Woot, it's technically his 2nd cycle, maybe low dose test/ deca would be fine? Elbow joint pain? Check out needto's skeletal balm, great reviews on that.
Pct?

 

[wootoom]

Oh ya I reread it my bad! I still liked to experiment with the different esters of test first also but deca also would be solid as well

 

[littleone09]

Yea, I was planning on running the test a couple weeks past my deca. I also have my PCT... HCG and Clomid... I have some arimidex too in case I need it.
I would love to take d-bol, but I dont have access to it. The only oral I can get is anavar.