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"muscle work builds muscle; protein supplements do not, and athletes do not need them"

they go on and on about how protien is already consumed far too much and we need more carbs. that to gain muslce we only need 60 g per day if ur an average person...... blah blah blah retarded
 
Give this article to your dipshit nutrition professor, especially noting how the REAL experts lambast the carb-rich bullshit food pyramid, as in this excerpt:

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Ironically, U.S. government agencies' attempts to deal with obesity during the last three decades—encouraging people to eat less fat and more carbohydrates, for example—actually may have exacerbated the problem. Take the Department of Agriculture's (USDA) Food Guide Pyramid, first promulgated in 1992. The pyramid's diagram of dietary recommendations is a familiar sight on cereal boxes—hardly a coincidence, since the guidelines suggest six to 11 servings daily from the "bread, cereal, rice, and pasta" group. The USDA recommends eating more of these starches than any other category of food. Unfortunately, such starches are nearly all high-glycemic carbohydrates, which drive obesity, hyperinsulinemia, and Type II diabetes. "At best, the USDA pyramid offers wishy-washy, scientifically unfounded advice on an absolutely vital topic—what to eat," writes Willett in Eat, Drink, and Be Healthy. "At worst, the misinformation contributes to overweight, poor health, and unnecessary early deaths."

Note that the pyramid comes from the Department of Agriculture, not from an agency charged with promoting health, like the National Institutes of Health or the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS). The USDA essentially promotes and regulates commerce, and its pyramid (currently under revision; expect a new version in 2005) was the focus of intensive lobbying and political struggle by agribusinesses in the meat, sugar, dairy, and cereal industries, among others.

Food is the most essential of all economic goods. Fifty percent of the world's assets, employment, and consumer expenditures belong to the food system, according to Harvard Business School's Ray Goldberg, Moffett professor of agriculture and business emeritus. (In the United States, 17 percent of employment is in what Goldberg calls the "value-added food chain.") He adds that "7 percent of the farmers produce 80 percent of the food—and do it on one-third of the land in cultivation. In the United States, half the net income of farmers comes from the government, in forms like price supports and land set-asides." The food industry is huge and exerts enormous influence on government policy.

Consider the flap that arose after the United Nations' World Health Organization (WHO) and Food and Agriculture Organization issued a report in 2003 recommending guidelines for eating to improve world nutrition and prevent chronic diseases. Instead of applauding the report, the DHHS issued a 28-page, line-by-line critique and tried to get WHO to quash it. WHO recommended that people limit their intake of added sugars to no more than 10 percent of calories eaten, a guideline poorly received by the Sugar Association, a trade group that has threatened to pressure Congress to challenge the United States' $406 million contribution to WHO.

Clearly, some food industries have for many years successfully influenced the government in ways that keep the prices of certain foods artificially low. David Ludwig questions farm subsidies of "billions to the lowest-quality foods"—for example, grains like corn ("for corn sweeteners and animal feed to make Big Macs") and wheat ("refined carbohydrates.") Meanwhile, the government does not subsidize far healthier items like fruits, vegetables, beans, and nuts. "It's a perverse situation," he says. "The foods that are the worst for us have an artificially low price, and the best foods cost more. This is worse than a free market: we are creating a mirror-world here."

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Remember that it takes approximately 4000 kcalories to gain a pound of fat, but "only" 3500 kcalories to lose a pound of fat ...... foudn this interesting tho
 
nutrition is a COMPLETE bullshit topic in school..... first off when u go to nutrition the first thing you learn is that the government has approved about EIGHT DIFFERENT "STANDARDS" for eating..... fairly concise a science i think
 
my mom has her entire DEGREE in nutrition, and this was back in the late 70s when she got it. Basically it reflected the standard american diet. Lots of fatty red meat high in saturated fats. Everything cooked in oil. Large amounts of unrefined carbs at every meal!
 
Yeah I got this idea that I was going to be a double major. My second major was nutrition/dietetics. Then I decided it wasnt worth completing and made it a minor. Situations which mirrored what you are talking about plus a book I was force fed made me just drop the thing entirely and leave with 3 f's on my transcript from it.
 
juicedmohawk said:
Yeah I got this idea that I was going to be a double major. My second major was nutrition/dietetics. Then I decided it wasnt worth completing and made it a minor. Situations which mirrored what you are talking about plus a book I was force fed made me just drop the thing entirely and leave with 3 f's on my transcript from it.
holy cow, three f's!!!
 
Lestat said:
holy cow, three f's!!!
2 were from classes I (thought I) dropped, but didnt somehow. I've been fighting for a year now with the registrar about having them taken off my transcript since I didnt attend a single day of classes.
 
I remember my nutrition class in college. My teacher weighed about 140 pounds and would tell me that using protein was stupid ( I weighed 220 and my arms were bigger than his legs). I would say things in class that were over his head. I could run circles around his ass. The stuff they teach is outdated by about 50 years. If you want to learn cutting edge nutrition talk to bodybuilders and high level athletes.
 
silverbackn said:
If you want to learn cutting edge nutrition talk to bodybuilders and high level athletes.

It's counter-intuitive, but I gotta' agree for the most part.

The things we do are laughed at by the mainstream... until they adopt them as their own.

ie:
5-6 smaller meals throughout the day? ...BBs were doing that years before it became de rigeur for the general populace.
 
fogg88 said:
It's counter-intuitive, but I gotta' agree for the most part.

The things we do are laughed at by the mainstream... until they adopt them as their own.

ie:
5-6 smaller meals throughout the day? ...BBs were doing that years before it became de rigeur for the general populace.
Exactly, you have to look at the people who are pushing the envelope to see where the best course of action is. I have a degree in exercise science and hold the CSCS through the NSCA. Neither one of them taught me anything applicable in terms of nutrition or building a great athlete or physique.
 
root beer musclemilk is sooo damn good
 
I think that's pretty normal. Most people who actually know about nutrition think that nutrition classes are BS. I've had a couple of coworkers see nutritionists in the past year and the diets they come back with as "ideal" are like one way tickets to a significantly wider ass.
 
Raina said:
I think that's pretty normal. Most people who actually know about nutrition think that nutrition classes are BS. I've had a couple of coworkers see nutritionists in the past year and the diets they come back with as "ideal" are like one way tickets to a significantly wider ass.

exactly... 11 servings of grains/starches (ie-sugar) for a sedentary person... brilliant!!
 
Just like the truth commercials about smoking, they need them about food as well. Especially about soda pop and white bread.

Whiskey
 
i took the fuckng test and was tempted to intentially answer things wrong.... which of the following is true about a football wishing to gain muscle
eating protein will help him gain weight if its a good quality protein
eating protien will not help him gain weight becuase carbohydrates are used by muscles
eating protein will no help him gain wieght becasue excess protein is denatured and stored as fat.....

the last one was "right" assholes
 
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