takes a man to ask for help

[juliuspleaser]

ive done long cycles before, consisting of cyp, eq and tren...ive taken dbols, ive done prop and winny/tren...i taken a bunch of shit like igf1 and i never saw shit..ive taken peptide like hgh frag ad didn' see shit...ive done t3/ and clen in spray form and wasn't impressed...

the best ive ever looked was last summer....i did winny 50mg ed , tren, and cyp....my diet was on, and i look cut..prob 11-12% bf...

my pct consisted of hcg 500ius twice a week, and myogenx, and also primal male...after my cycle, not during, which after reading was a mistake...

im sick of fucking up..and i always learn when its too late and there is so much contradicting resources on here...pct during or after? front load or not?...do this not that...take this not that...its very confusing and i also and im very stubborn and think i can get away with shit, like replacing real AI's and Serms with OTC supplements like myo....obviously my pct was an experiment, i know im supposed to do nolv and clomid and hcg, but ive done that before, didn't see much either...probably did it wrong...anyway, i just want to do everything right this time...

i want to gain lean muscle and keep it!...i want to order test e, deca, masteron, prop, and im gonna make my own tren...im gonna have 40ml of each drug...

my boy and i want to take the same cycle, and we want to bulk for 12 weeks, then switch to a new cutting cycle by march to lean out till summer

im thinking test e deca for 12 weeks.... 500mg wk test and 600mg wk deca...then followed by 12 wks of test prop and masteron 100mg eod , tren 100mg eod for the first 6 weeks, then switch 50mg to winny ed the last 6 wks...


i know its two 12 week cycles in a row but i know plenty of bbers that stay on all year and just switch the compounds...what do u think i should do or what cycle would u come up with using the compounds i just listed?...include any advice or cycle splits u think are better...im just tired of making up my own shit and fucking myself up some how...i dont want to research for myself, i want to be told exactly what do to...please help me if u can...thanks for ur time and expertice...

i know how to diet and i know everything else, i just want to take the thinking out of it and just DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

 

[iceman7230]

ok...im wanting to order a bunch of gear from alin since its a great amount of gear for such a cheap price...ive done a few cycles myself...i make my own tren, my friends love it, and i love it too, but anyway, im very confused on what to do next...

Ive done long cycles before, consisting of cyp, eq and tren...ive taken dbols, ive done prop and winny/tren...i taken a bunch of shit like igf1 and i never saw shit..ive taken peptide like hgh frag ad didn' see shit...ive done t3/ and clen in spray form and wasn't impressed...

The best ive ever looked was last summer....i did winny 50mg ed , tren, and cyp....my diet was on, and i look cut..prob 11-12% bf...

My pct consisted of hcg 500ius twice a week, and myogenx, and also primal male...after my cycle, not during, which after reading was a mistake...

Im sick of fucking up..and i always learn when its too late and there is so much contradicting resources on here...pct during or after? Front load or not?...do this not that...take this not that...its very confusing and i also and im very stubborn and think i can get away with shit, like replacing real ai's and serms with otc supplements like myo....obviously my pct was an experiment, i know im supposed to do nolv and clomid and hcg, but ive done that before, didn't see much either...probably did it wrong...anyway, i just want to do everything right this time...

I want to gain lean muscle and keep it!...i want to order test e, deca, masteron, prop, and im gonna make my own tren...im gonna have 40ml of each drug...

My boy and i want to take the same cycle, and we want to bulk for 12 weeks, then switch to a new cutting cycle by march to lean out till summer

im thinking test e deca for 12 weeks.... 500mg wk test and 600mg wk deca...then followed by 12 wks of test prop and masteron 100mg eod , tren 100mg eod for the first 6 weeks, then switch 50mg to winny ed the last 6 wks...


I know its two 12 week cycles in a row but i know plenty of bbers that stay on all year and just switch the compounds...what do u think i should do or what cycle would u come up with using the compounds i just listed?...include any advice or cycle splits u think are better...im just tired of making up my own shit and fucking myself up some how...i dont want to research for myself, i want to be told exactly what do to...please help me if u can...thanks for ur time and expertice...

I know how to diet and i know everything else, i just want to take the thinking out of it and just do it!!!!!!!!!!

your an idiot!

 

[silent says]

Check your post fella.

 

[juliuspleaser]

well im glad u helped so much

 

[silent says]

Dont post sources!!!

 

[juliuspleaser]

got it thx

 

[Ezekiel]

ok...im wanting to order a bunch of gear from alin since its a great amount of gear for such a cheap price...ive done a few cycles myself...i make my own tren, my friends love it, and i love it too, but anyway, im very confused on what to do next...

ive done long cycles before, consisting of cyp, eq and tren...ive taken dbols, ive done prop and winny/tren...i taken a bunch of shit like igf1 and i never saw shit..ive taken peptide like hgh frag ad didn' see shit...ive done t3/ and clen in spray form and wasn't impressed...

the best ive ever looked was last summer....i did winny 50mg ed , tren, and cyp....my diet was on, and i look cut..prob 11-12% bf...

my pct consisted of hcg 500ius twice a week, and myogenx, and also primal male...after my cycle, not during, which after reading was a mistake...

im sick of fucking up..and i always learn when its too late and there is so much contradicting resources on here...pct during or after? front load or not?...do this not that...take this not that...its very confusing and i also and im very stubborn and think i can get away with shit, like replacing real AI's and Serms with OTC supplements like myo....obviously my pct was an experiment, i know im supposed to do nolv and clomid and hcg, but ive done that before, didn't see much either...probably did it wrong...anyway, i just want to do everything right this time...

i want to gain lean muscle and keep it!...i want to order test e, deca, masteron, prop, and im gonna make my own tren...im gonna have 40ml of each drug...

my boy and i want to take the same cycle, and we want to bulk for 12 weeks, then switch to a new cutting cycle by march to lean out till summer

im thinking test e deca for 12 weeks.... 500mg wk test and 600mg wk deca...then followed by 12 wks of test prop and masteron 100mg eod , tren 100mg eod for the first 6 weeks, then switch 50mg to winny ed the last 6 wks...


i know its two 12 week cycles in a row but i know plenty of bbers that stay on all year and just switch the compounds...what do u think i should do or what cycle would u come up with using the compounds i just listed?...include any advice or cycle splits u think are better...im just tired of making up my own shit and fucking myself up some how...i dont want to research for myself, i want to be told exactly what do to...please help me if u can...thanks for ur time and expertice...

i know how to diet and i know everything else, i just want to take the thinking out of it and just DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

You're thinking of doing a 24 week cycle in total?

i dont want to research for myself, i want to be told exactly what do to

That costs $$$.... lol

As cliche as this might sound "Rome wasn't built in a day" Your son is involved? Do some major research man.

Come to think of it, Rome wasn't built in a day, but it did burn down in a day!!

 

[juliuspleaser]

my boy as in friend LOLOLOL...yes my 9 year old son lol...jk....

well i guess a 24 week cycle, where i switch the compounds dramatically....im only considering this based on the fact that ive met people who do not cycle off except 3 months a YEAR!!!...but i think i might take off 6-8 weeks before i jump on my cutting cycle...im gonna do hcg and arimidex the entire cycle...and then followed by the appropiate pct...

 

[Ezekiel]

my boy as in friend LOLOLOL...yes my 9 year old son lol...jk....

well i guess a 24 week cycle, where i switch the compounds dramatically....im only considering this based on the fact that ive met people who do not cycle off except 3 months a YEAR!!!...but i think i might take off 6-8 weeks before i jump on my cutting cycle...im gonna do hcg and arimidex the entire cycle...and then followed by the appropiate pct...

Bro, what are your stats?
ie. age
weight? BF %
how long in the gym?

 

[walliwalibus]

Bro, what are your stats?
ie. age
weight? BF %
how long in the gym?

Here we go, lets get the facts going in..... need some info so someone will guide you down the right path.

 

[juliuspleaser]

ive been working out since i was 13...that is once i picked up the encycolpedia of modern bb lol...

im 24 now.. 5'11 205 lbs...used to have 17 inch arms, 26 legs, 45 chest...bf was 11%...i had it prob to 11% last summer but ive out of the game for a few months....everything gone down an inch

 

[the_alcatraz]

Enjoy a one day timout until you learn to read the stickies...I guess with an attitude like " I just want to be told what to do and not research" you won't be achieving much....so i'm telling you what to do...read the fuckin stickies...and follow the rules

no sourcing, no lab talk, no price talk, read read read....research, provide stats, figure out wtf you're talking about before asking stupid questions

 

[juliuspleaser]

ive been reading forever, and there is alot of contradicting data.... 6wk cycles are the best, 12 weeks cycles are the best...cycles off, stay on forever...im just trying to ask people what to do to get the guess work out of all this information by using real peoples experience...its like asking someone to critique my cycle, im just asking make one for me based what im saying

 

[gixxerman]

julius...what are u trying to achieve? bulk...leaning out? give us ur goals and maybe i can give u some experience.

 

[2evil]

i know how to diet and i know everything else, i just want to take the thinking out of it and just DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

Bro, let's talk about progress you've made WITHOUT gear. What have you gained/ lost naturally. Post up your diet and routine and then your goals.

I'm not trying to be an ass but you seem to be self aware enough that you know you're your own worse enemy...

Peace.