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Anyone ever use t400 in a cycle, i got 20 mls of it and im trying to decide what to do with it.. i also got 40 mls of fina.. you guys got any ideas?
 
gettinstarted said:
Anyone ever use t400 in a cycle, i got 20 mls of it and im trying to decide what to do with it.. i also got 40 mls of fina.. you guys got any ideas?
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I'm takin t350 2cc hard leg workout are a jk, you know wat to do with.... so do it bro!!
 
Yes and that sh*t is a pain in the azz bro it hurts like hell, but if you can take the pain then go 10 weeks with it try this....

T400 week 1-10 at 800mg

Winny week 5-11 at 50mg a day

Proviron week 1-12 at 25mg a day

clomid week 14-16 at what ever a day

you will be jacked bro but your azz will hurt like hell lol :)
 
gettinstarted said:
Anyone ever use t400 in a cycle, i got 20 mls of it and im trying to decide what to do with it.. i also got 40 mls of fina.. you guys got any ideas?
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Honestly, I would just dump it, the stuff is trash. However, if you do decide to run it, bake the heck out of it first.
 
gabulldogs02 said:
You feel this way on all brands of T400? What about homebrew T400?
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T400 is usually related to mexican made test, not homebrew.
 
Mr.X said:
go for it bro
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so this is what im gonna do

t400 800mg per week 1-10
winny 5-11 50 mg ED
proviron 1-12 25 mg ED
clomid 14-16

but i still have this 40 ml of fina.. how should i incorporate that in there?
 
gettinstarted said:
so this is what im gonna do

t400 800mg per week 1-10
winny 5-11 50 mg ED
proviron 1-12 25 mg ED
clomid 14-16

but i still have this 40 ml of fina.. how should i incorporate that in there?
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how many cycles have you done before? and stats?
 
Have fun with that shit bro. I could barely walk after a shot of that nasty shit. Then I had test flu for about 4 days. My brother wanted to try it so I hooked him up. He was like "man whay did you give me that shit?" I said to him " I told you so". I will NEVER fuck with that shit again!!!!!!!!!!!!
S_P
 
I severley doubt the bennefits of baking gear. IMO baking is next to useless with oil based gear.
 
PolfaJelfa said:
I severley doubt the bennefits of baking gear. IMO baking is next to useless with oil based gear.
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what's your logic behind that? baking can be very beneficial.
 
PolfaJelfa said:
I would make sure theres alot of ba in there be4 you try it.
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lol, T400 has a TON of BA!

Matters which kind bro. Im assuming T-400 as a generic name for test@400mg/ml

I agree with you though that the mexican t400 is known widely to be crap and unsterille!
 
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Matters which kind bro. Im assuming T-400 as a generic name for test@400mg/ml

I agree with you though that the mexican t400 is known widely to be crap and unsterille!
 
You will like it but you will hate the pain bro.... BA is Benzin I think its how thay make the gear mix with out braking down and becouse t400 is unstabal it is high in BA............ thats is what makes your azz hurt like hell and makes it swell.....
 
I just used t400 and it didn't hurt all that bad until it got infected this last week. I don't know if it was the gear but I practiced every safe precaution you can take while injecting and it still got infected. I will never use it again.
 
I talked to the kid i got my gear from and he just got done with his cycle and he used the same t400 im using, and said he had no problems with it.... What about the brand of it.. its from syrus labs.. anyone got any feedback on them?
 
I've always wondered how people using Syrus T-400 are not experiencing any pain since 400mg/ml of test would require a lot of BA. From my research I've discovered that BA is not the only culprit in injection pain and discomfort. A lot of has to do with the esters used. Here's a copy & paste from another board:

"Why Syrus T400 is painless: Test Decanoate has a low melting point, it's actually more of a paste at room Temperature, so is enanthate. 300mg of 400mg of the T400 cannot possibly crystallize at the injection site (with sufficient amounts of BB) Using a proper ratio of esters and solvents, syrus' formulation is PAINLESS...Denkall's T400 was composed of mostly Cyp and some prop which can be VERY painful.

Most of the injection pain comes from gear crystallizing at the injection site; sort of how some gear can crystallize in a vial ~~Now imagine sharp crystals forming at the injection site~~ How does a lab avoid this? By using high quality powders, USP oil and the proper ratio of solvents ie quite a bit of BB which can get expensive. In most cases, BA has very little to do with injection pain. Some esters, if not dissolved and processed properly can be painful (Propionate, Cypionate, PhenylProp...) This is mostly due to different melting points (cyp easily crystallizes yet enanthate won't crystallize)".
 
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gettinstarted said:
Mr X can you please explain to me what BA is, and also what are the benefits of baking it?
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BA = benzyl alcohol

Labs use a BA/BB mix to suspend products. Read what BONZ^ said, he pretty much summed up the ester etc... issue.
 
BONZ^ said:
I've always wondered how people using Syrus T-400 are not experiencing any pain since 400mg/ml of test would require a lot of BA. From my research I've discovered that BA is not the only culprit in injection pain and discomfort. A lot of has to do with the esters used. Here's a copy & paste from another board:

"Why Syrus T400 is painless: Test Decanoate has a low melting point, it's actually more of a paste at room Temperature, so is enanthate. 300mg of 400mg of the T400 cannot possibly crystallize at the injection site (with sufficient amounts of BB) Using a proper ratio of esters and solvents, syrus' formulation is PAINLESS...Denkall's T400 was composed of mostly Cyp and some prop which can be VERY painful.

Most of the injection pain comes from gear crystallizing at the injection site; sort of how some gear can crystallize in a vial ~~Now imagine sharp crystals forming at the injection site~~ How does a lab avoid this? By using high quality powders, USP oil and the proper ratio of solvents ie quite a bit of BB which can get expensive. In most cases, BA has very little to do with injection pain. Some esters, if not dissolved and processed properly can be painful (Propionate, Cypionate, PhenylProp...) This is mostly due to different melting points (cyp easily crystallizes yet enanthate won't crystallize)".
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Great summary k to you brotha.
 
Alright so then its final.. this is gonan be my cycle..

T400 week 1-10 at 800mg M & F

Fina week 1-10 225mg M W F

Winny week 5-11 at 50mg a day ED

Proviron week 1-12 at 25mg a day

clomid week 14-16 at what ever a day

Thanks for all the help fellas
 
When I used real Denkall T-400 about 3-4 yrs ago, it worked great, although I retained a bit more water than usual....but the main thing is it HURTS LIKE HELL! I mean NOTHING else I ever took hurt as much...lots of BA in it I would guess....this was about 4 yrs ago...so I dont know if it has changed...
 
what is a good temp to bake it? are u just talking about warmin git up before the shot to increase vascosity? or are you baking it in the oven or in a ban? to kill bacteria?
 
Extra_Strong said:
what is a good temp to bake it? are u just talking about warmin git up before the shot to increase vascosity? or are you baking it in the oven or in a ban? to kill bacteria?
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Put the vial in the Mic for 5 to 10 sec this will also help to thin out the oil for it to inject alot eazyer..........
 
Castro_bigdog said:
Put the vial in the Mic for 5 to 10 sec this will also help to thin out the oil for it to inject alot eazyer..........
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what about the aluminum cap? in the microwave? this is bad right?
 
Mr.X said:
Honestly, I would just dump it, the stuff is trash. However, if you do decide to run it, bake the heck out of it first.
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Agreed. The pain that shit causes in no way justifies the pain it inflicts.
 
Extra_Strong said:
what about the aluminum cap? in the microwave? this is bad right?
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Dont worry it will be OK just dont leave it in the MIC over 10 sec. Your all good bro....... the cap will be hot so grab it slow, dont burn your self..
 
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