T4 Rebounds Experience

[bringingthewood]

Has anyone had experience w/ T4 HGH stack and had rebound issues w/ the thyroid once you get off?

I'm planning on using the T4 for the entire time, maybe a year, but don't want to end it and have a huge rebound.

I got the idea for T4 off of this article:

http://forums./showthread.php?t=253351

Any advice on this? Dosage/when to take it/if I should just use OTC like:

lipostim + lipoflame together for 4-6 weeks
Nelsons ZIP 2 weeks
And keep rotating for duration

Or a combo of OTC and T4.

Anyway, any advice on this from somebody that has experience or knowledge would be great. Thanks guys. BTW

 

[access]

I have run T4 alone, with hgh, with T3 and all 3 together. Also with GHRP and GHRH included.

Never had any type of rebound at all. Generally run T4 at 100mcgs/daily when running with T3 which how I would normally do.

 

[bringingthewood]

Thanks Access.. What's the longest you ran the T4 w/ the HGH w/out the rebound? I was thinking of doing it for 9-12 months. In your opinion, would that be ok to run the T4 at 50mcg/ED for that time span or do you think I should use 100mcg? And what time of day did you take your T4? Thanks. BTW

 

[access]

I see no problem with a 9-12 month run in conjunction with the HGH. I would go with the 100mcgs though as 50 is not even close to what you would be seeing daily from natural production. GH has the ability to stimulate the conversion of T4 to T3 but your also going to be seeing a rise in Somatostatin levels. This is part of the negative feedback mechanism and when Somatostatin rises it inhibits secretion of TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone) which in turn regulates secretion of TRH (Thryrotropin Releasing Hormone) and here we have lower levels of T4 being secreted.

So running T4 in conjunction with HGH is very beneficial for the reasons I oultined above and is preferential to using T3 in a similar manner.

 

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[ArmaniAK47]

I've never used T4... but I once used T3..

Shit was fucking horrible...

I started at 12.5 mcgs a day... moved up to 25.. moved up to 50.. I just felt warm all the time (although my heart was doing bongo drum type shit [my girlfriend at the time listened and told me...] I didn't get any "strange beats" from my heart... IE ones that make you feel like you may die, etc...)

I lost a lot of fat, fast.. but on day 4 or 5 I flipped out.. my throat felt like it "moved" or "tweaked" and I felt an insane rush of panic.. I felt very hot, too.. and my heart rate was really high..

I was at dinner.. I quickly got up and headed off to the bathroom to try and calm down.. I thought I may die, like I was having a heart attack or something..

Finally the feeling subsided a little.. I was still freaking out but enough to walk back and get home.. I dropped the dose back to 12.5 for a few days..and got off it..

The (what I would eventually begin calling) Anxiety lasted for months.. I couldn't work out without my heart rate being super high after one set.. so I dropped my workouts.. hardly ate..

lost all my muscle and fat.. waist dropped to like 32. (from a normal muscular 36)..

It was unpleasant to say the least.. I'm back to normal now, and sadly considering trying some thyroid "remedy" to help me cut up..

 

[access]

Your problem was not with the T3 as you explain it. The half life on T3 is about 24 hours so your not going to see symptons like you expereinced from dosing of T3 for months later.