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T3 without steroids is a no-go, right?

So what about taking Creatine with T3 and Clen???
Along with 3grams of taurine. Would that help prevent catabolism???


Thanx
PCfuzz
 
Macro, I had thought taurine was mostly for use with stimulants, like clen. I have heard three different things about why it should be taken. One is that it helps avoid thyroid suppression when taking stuff like clen. Also that it prevents cramping from clen because of depleted taurine stores. The other is that is provides a base for the body to use to produce catecholamines like norepinephrine. Which of these are true? And is there any reason to take it with T3?
 
It's like supplementing with testosterone; exogenous test will shut down natural production. So supplementing with T3 will contribute to higher levels in the body causing symptoms of hyperthyroidism. However, you are actually suppressing natural T3 production. You'll find that out once you come off from it and have blood drawn.
 
ok, ive brushed up. understand now.

t3 dosen't cause an overactive thyroid. an overactive thyroid would simply produce ecessive t4 which is converted to t3.

t3's physiologic effects are manifested @ the cellular level (increasing metabolism). introduction of exogenous t3 will be sensed by the hypothalamus = suppressed trh. suppressed trh causes the pituitary to suppress tsh production.

while suppressed tsh (in the absence of exogenous t3) would certainly lead to hypothyroidism, it's not the case when an abundance of exogenous t3.

thanks macro. k to you!
 
whitemahon said:
ok, ive brushed up. understand now.

t3 dosen't cause an overactive thyroid. an overactive thyroid would simply produce ecessive t4 which is converted to t3.

t3's physiologic effects are manifested @ the cellular level (increasing metabolism). introduction of exogenous t3 will be sensed by the hypothalamus = suppressed trh. suppressed trh causes the pituitary to suppress tsh production.

while suppressed tsh (in the absence of exogenous t3) would certainly lead to hypothyroidism, it's not the case when an abundance of exogenous t3.

thanks macro. k to you!


Yes.. ALTHOUGH caution should be taken.. make sure to taper it off when you stop with it so that way your body says "OH shit we aren't getting any more of that free T3.. let's get back to work fuckers! hypothalamus go go go!"
 
Well, i was only going to use it in conjunction with clen during a PCT after a cycle of Pheraplex and Prostanazol.

I was going to do trex during the cycle, then clen/T3 after the cycle.

Mebbe T3/Trex during the cycle, and just clen along with the other PCT stuff post-cycle?
 
PCfuzz said:
So what about taking Creatine with T3 and Clen???
Along with 3grams of taurine. Would that help prevent catabolism???


Thanx
PCfuzz

you have another thread in regards to this, see my answer there.
 
kethnaab said:
Figure as much, too catabolic or something, but I figured I'd ask.

Is T3 a "research chemical" like clen, nolva, etc?


Ive done it successfully without AAS to lose some BF. you have to know what your doing, but it can be done.
 
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