T3 FAQ: Everything you need to know about T3

[gwl9dta4]

I'm on t3 right now. I started the first week at 20mcg and cleaned up my diet. At the end of the first week there was some subtle tightening on some parts of my body. I liked it. Now i am in week 2 and have increased the dosage to 40mcg and will propably hold it there till the end and then taper down.

Currently i take in about 2500 cals daily. I keep the protein intake at about 1 gram per pound of body weight. Get the rest of my calories from the "good" fats and whole wheat carbs and some fruit.

My muscles have actually been looking fuller and i feel stronger, this is what i get right now at this dosage. This is why i do not feel like going beyond 40mcg daily. I prefer to take my time for 6 weeks and allow my body more time to do it's thing. And my health is my #1 priority, i could care less about how much muscle i loose, but so far i am loosing none.

 

[gwl9dta4]

Also i forgot to add, due to Cytomel's long half life, i will come off the T3 by taking 20mcg EOD which will then average out to 10mcg daily. This i will further reduce to 10mcg EOD for a week.

 

[BigAndy69]

Sounds like a good plan gwl9dta4.

Currently, I'm on 50mcg with Clen.

No steroids, I'm eating about 1.75g of protein per lb of BW and 120-150g of carbs. It looks like I lost some muscle but I'm not too sure. It may be the flat feeling, I'll find out tomorrow after my Back/delt workout.

Are you on steroids, gwl9dta4? You should really up your protein and lower your carbs.

 

[GARAGE GORILLA]

BigAndy, Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. This was a very informative post.

 

[argent]

When you stop T3, and you've used 25mcg or more, you enter the lovely state of hypothyroidism. Your body stopped producing T3 because you were getting it from an outside source. Your body shut's down.......You are hypothyroidic for at least 4 weeks and up to 6 weeks for normal cycles.

Big Andy, so assuming you ramped up and already hit your peak dosage and are tapering down, couldn't you run it at 12.5 mg for 2-3 weeks followed by 6.25mg for another 2-3 weeks to almost completly avoid this?

 

[gwl9dta4]

Sounds like a good plan gwl9dta4.

Currently, I'm on 50mcg with Clen.

No steroids, I'm eating about 1.75g of protein per lb of BW and 120-150g of carbs. It looks like I lost some muscle but I'm not too sure. It may be the flat feeling, I'll find out tomorrow after my Back/delt workout.

Are you on steroids, gwl9dta4? You should really up your protein and lower your carbs.

No, no streroids. I keep the protein a little lower because my body does not really like too much protein, i actually strt to bloat in my face when i take too much, i do much better with more fat and carbs. My skin looks and feels very tight when i eat more good fat. I believe that it is the eating of all the good fat that keeps my muscles looking and feeling very full.

Like the original post said, you have to know your body and know mine. Over the years i learned i get MUCH MUCH better gains when i remove some of the protein and replace it with fat. I believe the ultra High protein crap is all marketing and there is no need for that much protein. In Arnolds years all the body builders got as gig as they wanted without any exotic proteins and crazy protein dosages. The only limiting factor was their cycles, it's the pharmacology that has progressed, the nutrition aspect has stayed pretty much the same. Like i said more fat = a more lean, stronger body for me.

 

[BigAndy69]

Big Andy, so assuming you ramped up and already hit your peak dosage and are tapering down, couldn't you run it at 12.5 mg for 2-3 weeks followed by 6.25mg for another 2-3 weeks to almost completly avoid this?

I don't think there is a way to avoid hypothyroidism, you can only make a smother transition. I think you have to be completely off T3 for your body to start producing it's own.


GARAGE GORILLA- My pleasure.

gwl9dta4- You're right about the high protein hype, I never eat higher than 1g per lb of bodyweight and I rely on carbs. When I diet, I found that increasing protein intake drastically helps me lean out. Carbs bloat the hell out of me, not protein. We're all different.

 

[Big'N Heavy]

BigAndy,
I am on week 2 of my cycle and i was going to start T3 at week 5 and end on week 10 which at week 10 I am stopping my EQ and Test but i was going to throw in prop eod at 100mg till week 13 so I could start my clomid soon after that instead of being on nothing for 3 weeks. MY question is from what i am reading should i start the T3 instead at week8 and run it to week 13? Or with what i have planned be ok to go with as long as i keep my diet and cardio in check for that next month and a half or so?? Thanks for the help

Big

 

[el cubano]

It may shock many people to know that T3 is NOT catabolic per se. Corticosteroids are catabolic drugs that attack muscle tissue directly; T3 does not. It is a very potent calorie burner and it does not discriminate between carbohydrates, protein and fat. Unlike DNP, it has no protein sparing properties. T3 is also more likely to burn muscle than fat in lean users (10-12% BF), but this can be said for any extreme drop in caloric intake and uptake such as starvation diets (Caloric intake <10 X BW).


This whole paragraph contradicts itself. It's not catabolic but it burns muscle??? You are comparing corticosteroids with T3 in the wrong way. Cortescosteroids are catabolic because that's what they do. T3 is used for something else, but is catabolic. It burns protein and muscle.


Definition of catabolic

This term is often used in reference to the breakdown of muscle. Dieting is catabolic because it causes muscle loss. The word catabolic can, however, be used to refer to any process in which a complex substance is converted into simpler substances. Lipolysis, for example, is a catabolic process because your fat stores are broken down into free fatty acids and glycerol


So, if T3 breaks down protein and muscle it is catabolic.

 

[HugeWannabe]

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