Wow - not at all actually. Anyways - dbol and tbol gave me back pumps but dbols were definitely worse. Tbol is easier on liver. Tbol doesn't bloat - dbol bloats alot. Gains tend to be similar, muscle wise - but with dbol you also get water. Strength - Dbol for me was better, most will probably say so. But Tbol is also good for strength. Basically it comes down to bloat - if you want to stay dry vs. blow up. Also, if you want to deadlift then STAY AWAY FROM DBOL (in my case).