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T-Bol vs Anavar

whats better for lean, vascularity, and strength without shutting down natural testosterone

ALL STEROID WILL SUPPRESS natural testosterone. Shut down is a whole other thing. I've never taken T-bol. some like it some do not. I prefer Winny to anavar. If you can get good prescription anavar that may be different, but UG is too expensive and you have to take a higher dose to get the results that you read about in profiles. I love winny more than anyone on this board I think though.
 
lean vascularity comes from your body fat levels. Anything that does not aromatize will help you, tren, primo, winny, var, tbol,
 
tbol has better muscle gains. "like dbol without the water" or "a mix between dbol and var" is what some people say. i agree with these statements personally. with tbol and the proper diet for your goals you can reach them whether bulking or cutting.
 
You could probably take 25mg/day of var and still keep some endogenous testosterone production. At that dose the results would be subtle but anything more than that would send natty test production to virtually zero.
 
var is bad by itself if you are suppressed, it'll keep you suppressed and it's not androgenic enough so you'll be like a eunuch, emasculated.
Winny would be a better bet or var and winny.
 
It comes down to preference I think... you can bulk or lean out with either, depending on diet... if you compare mg per mg, then one could argue that T-bol is stronger because typical "effective dosages" for T-bol are lower than dosages of Anavar that people typically run... both will suppress you, either could shut you down if you take enough... the beauty of either is that sides are typically lower than say d-bol, oral winny,
 
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