Sustanon/Winni/Nolva/DBol Stack

[BrooDa]

Hello, this is my first post, I hope I get a lot of help on this site. I am 26 years old, 6ft, 185lbs. Been working out my whole life but have never done steroids. I recently found out my brother in law has been on and off them for the last 15 years and now I want to try them. I have asked his advice and he told me to buy Sustanon, Winni and Nolvadex. So I did. He also said that I might wanna try DBol to jump start it, which I can also get if I want. But I need advice.

I got...
5250mg of Sustanon
400 pills at 5mg each of Winni
And enough Nolvadex.

How would you guys break this up for a 12 week cycle? And what do you think about the Dbol?

 

[nydj66]

For a 1st cycle I would skip the d-bol; it aromatizes heavily to estrogen and with the sust you would likely need a stronger anti-estrogen than nolvadex.

For a 12 week cycle HCG is highly recommended to keep your testes functional. Here's what I propose:

wk 1-10: Sust 250mg 2X/wk
wk 1-12: HCG 250IU 2X/wk
wk 7-12: Winny 50mg/day
wk 13-16: PCT (clomid 50mg/day or alternate product of your choice)

 

[absmuscle]

go with:

500mg sustanon a week 1-12
400mg deca durabolin aweek 1-10
40mg d-bol a day 1-5
10-20mgnolvadex aday 1-13
clomids and hcg for end

 

[jjaas]

Hello, this is my first post, I hope I get a lot of help on this site. I am 26 years old, 6ft, 185lbs. Been working out my whole life but have never done steroids. I recently found out my brother in law has been on and off them for the last 15 years and now I want to try them. I have asked his advice and he told me to buy Sustanon, Winni and Nolvadex. So I did. He also said that I might wanna try DBol to jump start it, which I can also get if I want. But I need advice.

I got...
5250mg of Sustanon
400 pills at 5mg each of Winni
And enough Nolvadex.

How would you guys break this up for a 12 week cycle? And what do you think about the Dbol?

Like this: 250mg sustanon every week 1-6, 500mg 6-12
25mg winny everyday 1-3, 50mg everyday 3-6
12-14 No shots of nothing 14-16 nolva 25mg ED

the winny will help the sustanon and you wont need the nolva until you are finished with the cycle bc at 250, its not going to aromatize heavily. No need to overdo it right away, let your body get used to it. When your body adjusts to the steroids, you slightly take it up a notch. personally, I think 12 weeks is a long time, esp if you are new to gear, maybe 8-10? skip the dbol, do that next time. "enough nolva" is vague, talk to needtogetass about getting some dermacrine for pct and find a banner advertising HCG

 

[mattu3743]

hey good bro's this guy hasnt juiced before so why are ya'll recommending him to take decca and winny???

Since its your first cycle, you just want to get your feet wet not do a whole cannonball into the water. I would only due te sust. 250mg/w and then pct take some nolva and keep some adex onside just incase gyno might show up

 

[nydj66]

hey good bro's this guy hasnt juiced before so why are ya'll recommending him to take decca and winny???

Since its your first cycle, you just want to get your feet wet not do a whole cannonball into the water. I would only due te sust. 250mg/w and then pct take some nolva and keep some adex onside just incase gyno might show up

I would agree that deca would be inappropriate for a first cycle but winny is relatively benign and he's already got it. Besides, the way I structured the cycle the winny doesn't start until 7 weeks in so he'd know if adding that was causing extra sides.

It's also handy with long half-life gear like sust to use an oral by itself the last 2 weeks while the long esters work their way out of the body. I stand by my recommendation.

 

[mattu3743]

I would agree that deca would be inappropriate for a first cycle but winny is relatively benign and he's already got it. Also, that way I structured the cycle the winny doesn't start until 7 weeks in so he'd know if adding that was causing extra sides.

It's also handy with long half-life gear like sust to use an oral by itself the last 2 weeks while the long esters work their way out of the body. I stand by my recommendation.

agree to disagree, what would you recommend for him to take his pct??

 

[jjaas]

I would agree that deca would be inappropriate for a first cycle but winny is relatively benign and he's already got it. Also, that way I structured the cycle the winny doesn't start until 7 weeks in so he'd know if adding that was causing extra sides.

It's also handy with long half-life gear like sust to use an oral by itself the last 2 weeks while the long esters work their way out of the body. I stand by my recommendation.

The sust and winny is what he has on hand, no more to it. nydj66 has a very good point: if everythings going well by week 7 at 250 sust EW, then throw in the winny and run it while your long esters are tappering off.

 

[Unit 2005]

Sustanon is slightly less estrogenic that cyp or ethan so you wont bloat as much as the straight long estered tests. Id use the dbol for 4, use 30mgs and im sure you will be fine without an anti e. Use winny to tighen up at the end:

1 - 4 dbol: 30mg
1 - 12 Sust: 500mg
9 - 13 winny: 50mg

PCT

Week 14 - 16 HCG (500 eod/ed or 1000mg every 3/4 days)
Week 14 - 16 Nolva 40mg and/or Clomid 100mg
Week 17 - 18 Nolva 20mg and/or clomid 50mg

Keep some nolva on hand during cycle but at these dosages you shouldnt need it. Winstrol has anti e effects itself, similar to proviron.

 

[wheyman090]

u needa throw some clomid in the picture as well