Sustanon vs T-enanthate-- the graphs

[Andy13]

Red-Sustanon -- 500mg injected twice a week
Blue-Sustanon-- 250mg injected EOD

Yellow-- T-enanthate 250mg injected EOD.

 

[Andy13]

Sorry the chart is so big.. I'm not a master at excel like zyg is..

But, per request, here it is.

As you can see, there is a HUGE difference when sustanon is injected twice a week vs EOD.

Enanthate at 250mg EOD is very similar to sustanon 250 injected EOD.. But the enanthate is a little more stable.

Incedentally, this is not an exact mg/mg comparison. The point of the graph was to show that sustanon needs to be injected at ED. Obviously when 500mg is taken twice a week, it is more mg's that 250mg injected EOD. But you get the point.

Andy

 

[Andy13]

Here's the same chart with enanthate loaded by injecting 1000mg on day one and then 250mg/day after that.

 

[overrx]

very helpful thanks, however arent you getting higher peaks with the same drops when sus is injected only twice a week?

 

[JMasters]

Good post, how did you figure this out Andy?

 

[therealj]

very nice Andy

 

[Andy13]

very helpful thanks, however arent you getting higher peaks with the same drops when sus is injected only twice a week?

Yes.. The large spikes represent 2x500mg/week sustanon injections.

Andy

 

[genarr3]

I get it now.
Genarr3

 

[The Iron Game]

Andy can you please list what you have used as the half lifes for every ester in your graph, because a few things dont right to me.

Thanks

 

[Andy13]

I'm glad you asked.. There seems to be some debate..

Here is what I used--- I'm not 100% sure of these half lives..

30mg T-prop 2 days
60mg phenylP 3 days
60 isocar. 6 days
100mg dec 10 days.

Andy

 

[The Iron Game]

I'm glad you asked.. There seems to be some debate..

Here is what I used--- I'm not 100% sure of these half lives..

30mg T-prop 2 days
60mg phenylP 3 days
60 isocar. 6 days
100mg dec 10 days.

Andy

woah

and for the enanthate?

 

[Andy13]

I gave enanthate a 7 day half life... What do you have for these?

 

[dumblucky]

So if I used enanthate at the same dosage as sustanon I will get the same peaks and valleys..right

 

[CONTRACTION]

On my current cycle I used sust eod and let me be one to tell you guys that it works wayyy better that way. The only mistake I made was not to front load enough. I only front loaded with 500mg on the 1st shot, then 250mg eod after that. Next time I'll start higher. Thanks Andy.

 

[CONTRACTION]

It's funny though, I remember when I mentioned sust eod in a post and you jumped all over me about how the theory was bullshit. Seems things have changed!

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=28032

Well, well, here's the thread itself. I just had to rub it in Andy. LOL! I think you said sust doesnt need to be injected ed or eod? Ah well, old news now.

 

[Andy13]

It's funny though, I remember when I mentioned sust eod in a post and you jumped all over me about how the theory was bullshit. Seems things have changed!

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=28032

Well, well, here's the thread itself. I just had to rub it in Andy. LOL! I think you said sust doesnt need to be injected ed or eod? Ah well, old news now.

Yup.. it's a learning process, bro!!

And it's hard for guys to grasp (including me at one time) that ANY injectable, no matter WHAT the ester peaks after 24 hrs.. I found that out when I did the math..

Andy

 

[yiyangzhi]

Just to clarify with you Andy, the graph representing Test Enanthate front loaded: are the subsequent EOD injections starting on Day 3 or Day 7? Thanks Andy.

 

[Zyglamail]

Good post Andy. I ran the syst numbers myself a while ago(with slightly different half lives) and got a radically bouncing line just like you. I have not tried the sust or aratest, but after running the numbers I am more certain I will stick to a single ester product where I can better control blood levels.

 

[Andy13]

Just to clarify with you Andy, the graph representing Test Enanthate front loaded: are the subsequent EOD injections starting on Day 3 or Day 7? Thanks Andy.

Yes..

Andy