Noddy, I disagree. I am finishing off my first cycle which consisted of Dbol 25mg/day for 4 weeks and 750/mg Sust a week. I think it proved to be a good first cycle. I learned how to inject and also what to expect and got to see my body react w/ what I was putting into it. I think Sust is a great cycle for a virgin. I know I learned a lot, not just about gear but also how to train and eat while on it. My only recomendation would be to make sure you take enough a week. Depending on size and training history, I think 500/mg wk is a good place to start.