Sustanon,Dbol,and Somatropin HGH

[boz44]

These are the products I have to deal with:
Sustanon 250
Dbol "naps" 5 mg
Somatropin HGH
AIFM
HCG
Arimidex
Clomid

31yrs old, 5'11" 180,12% bf, know how to lift, know how to eat, had shoulder surgery in Nov 05 and 80% healed, herniated disc in back so I have to take it a little easier than I would like, taking Ultram pain pills to get through the pain. My goal is to put on size. Would like to be around 210 and still 12 % bf. Diet is currently approx. 3200 calories a day, 280 carbs, 46 grams fat, 400 grams of protein. I would like to stay on the hgh year round from now on. I bought the dbol for a kick start because I was originally going to go with Test E. Now that I have Sust., do you think I need to use the dbol to start? Here's what I'm thinking. Please let me know what you would do different.

Week 1-12 Sust. 250, one shot on Monday and the second on Thursday, for a total of 500mg a week.
Week 1-3 Dbol 30mg. a day.(High blood pressure, can't do high mg dbol)
Week 1-forever 3 iu's of Somatropin
AIFM through out cycle and pct(I guess I'll use this instead of the arimidex?)
Week 13,14,15 Clomid 50mg a day
Week 13 HCG

Second Cycle. First one was Deca only in college 10 years ago.

 

[GetBig10]

i dont think you need to use dbol since sust as shorter acting esters right...so..that would be the onyl thing i change in your cycle...otherwise it looks awesome bro...good luck

 

[boz44]

That's what I was wondering. Thanks.

 

[chestmaster1]

You don't NEED it to start but if you want a kick start to get to 210 you SHOULD use the d-bol for atleast the first 4 weeks, and maybe even consider doing it for 6 weeks possibly with a lower dose

 

[boz44]

You don't NEED it to start but if you want a kick start to get to 210 you SHOULD use the d-bol for atleast the first 4 weeks, and maybe even consider doing it for 6 weeks possibly with a lower dose

Now that is what I was wanting to hear! What do you think is the lowest dose to actually get some size and strength? 25/day?

 

[boz44]

Hey Macro, can taking too much Tylers be bad? I am taking 30 mg a day of dbol. Also taking a lot of ultram for lower back pain. Wondered if I could up the dosage of Tylers or not? Thanks.

 

[MR. BMJ]

Personally, I'd run the test how you have it, but i'd run the dbol for 6-8 weeks.

You will be fine with the Tyler's.

For a 30 pound gain, you are gonna have to bump up the calories and the dosages....hence the extended dbol. You will gain some fat with those gains, so expect it to come.

BMJ

 

[boz44]

Has anyone taken more than the recomended dose of Tylers? Wondered if I could increase it to help out with pain pills/dbol taking a toll on my liver.

 

[doublefister]

If you are trying to gain 30lbs I suggest you eat a lot more than 3200 calories a day. More along the lines of 5000 calories a day. I put a friend of mine on a cycle which consisted of 500mg test e, 400mg deca, and 50mg dbol. Had him consume over 5000 calories and he gained over 35lbs.

After cycle during PCT he ended up losing about 15 so still maintained 20. 3200 Calories is definitely on the low end for gaining mass.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

would add glucorell or sesapure (both of which strongly support liver health and functioning), instead of upping the dose of tylers. Lecthin is also a good addition for liver health.

 

[boz44]

would add glucorell or sesapure (both of which strongly support liver health and functioning), instead of upping the dose of tylers. Lecthin is also a good addition for liver health.

I am already using glucorell along with my Tylers. So hopefully my liver will make it through! I think I have prepared for most of the sides. The only thing I haven't thought much about is my hair. What would you guys suggest to start taking or to have on hand for hair loss? I already have a litlle bit of a receding hair line. Just want to be prepared if I wake up one morning with hair covering my pillow or something.

 

[solidspine]

Drop the growth, and take diovan for b/p

 

[macrophage69alpha]

nizoral for hair

 

[boz44]

nizoral for hair

Where do you recommend buying nizoral? Is this the only thing I should start taking for hair loss? Cycle is Dbol, Test, and hgh.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

you can get nizoral at any drug store and most supermarkets. its an aid, you can take other things (like 5 alpha reductase inhibitors).

nizoral shampoo is used as an anti-fungal anti- dandruff formula, the active ingredient ketoconazole is also an anti-androgen

 

[welloiledmachine]

personally I don't think 500mg of sust is enough to put on 30 lbs. Because two of the esters are gone in two days leaving you with 160mg. You may be better off using enanthate or cyp. with prop added in.

 

[al420]

personally I don't think 500mg of sust is enough to put on 30 lbs. Because two of the esters are gone in two days leaving you with 160mg. You may be better off using enanthate or cyp. with prop added in.

You need to get checked bro - go read some of this guys threads like "help, first injection" before you listen to him.