Sustanon 250 = 176mg as esters?

[JuicedAthletics]

HSV.. you have 176mg of Testosterone and 74mg of ester...

 

[HSV]

So when im working out how much to take ie ive been takeing 2 x 1ml sust 250 per week, does that mean im not takeing enough? Im takeing 2 x 176mg a week? See what im getting at.

 

[nuevo laredo]

So when im working out how much to take ie ive been takeing 2 x 1ml sust 250 per week, does that mean im not takeing enough? Im takeing 2 x 176mg a week? See what im getting at.

Depends on what you are trying to do. Everyone reacts differently and has different goals. I think 500mg sust a week is fine but that's just me. I know I would get bigger and stronger from it.

I think a good dosage to aim for is taking just enough to get the results you are looking for without taking too much.

 

[HSV]

Depends on what you are trying to do. Everyone reacts differently and has different goals. I think 500mg sust a week is fine but that's just me. I know I would get bigger and stronger from it.

I think a good dosage to aim for is taking just enough to get the results you are looking for without taking too much.

What im trying to figure out is if im takeing 500mg a week or infact takeing 348 mg per week of test? Box says its got 250mg of tests in it bottle says 176mg ??Im still confused or is that im just stupid?

 

[nuevo laredo]

What im trying to figure out is if im takeing 500mg a week or infact takeing 348 mg per week of test? Box says its got 250mg of tests in it bottle says 176mg ??Im still confused or is that im just stupid?

Like juicedathletics said you have 176mg of Test and the rest is taken up by the esters. I haven't looked each ester up and done the math but it sounds about right.

So if you are injecting twice a week you are injecting 348mg of test.

 

[flyingjer]

no, not stupid bro, it can be a little confusing, when people talk about using a certain amount of test, they are talking about the amounts that the test and ester weight, as you said you are taking 500mg of sus a week, that is just 500 of sus a week, everybody that knows any better knows that it is not actually 500mg of testerone, but thats just how we do it, 500mg of sus is a good beginner cycle yeah you might only be getting 352 of test, but you are doing 500mg of sus.

that is why they also say prop is the strongest, because you get more test out of it then the rest, but it really doesnt matter that much, just take it as its labeled, we all do

 

[Madcow2]

Maybe this helps. Test is test, all the esters do is deliver it or break it down at different rates. This is why Sustanon has multiple esters to try to arrive at the smoothest yield in the body. Example being it is designed to be injected every 3 weeks and provide the most stable blood levels between injections. Single ester preps are not as stable i.e. the shorter the ester would spike earlier in the 3 weeks and then taper to nothing while a very long ester would not provide much initially and build in later. So that's the job of esters and why sustanon is blended that way. It's about long periods between injection and achieving the most stable blood levels between those points. Test is test, the attached ester just controls the timing.

Now knowing that, all these different esters have a weight and it's like a spectrum. The lighter esters are the fastest acting and the fastest to clear - so think prop here and even suspension which has no ester. As the ester gets longer into a cyp or enanthate or decanoate these esters weigh more and more while they become slower and slower acting.

So now you know that each ester has weight, the longer the ester the heavier it is, the longer the ester the longer the time, that test is test regardless of the ester attached, and that test has a constant weight. So when you have 100mg of pure suspension, you have more test molecules than in 100mg of proprionate (because the attached prop ester increases the total weight so less test per total weight to make room for the ester). This continues right down the scale as the esters get longer you get fewer total testosterone molecules in the same total mg weight. This is one of the reasons why people say that suspension or short esters are stronger, you just plain old have more molecules per mg.

Your Sustanon breaks out how much of the weight is actual testosterone. So if you have 176mg of test in there, it's the same as 176mg of suspension (which has no ester). So in reality you are not getting 250mg of test a week, you are getting 176mg every injection. They don't gross up the total mg to equalize test content, they simply weigh the whole substance ester and all which, when you hold mg constant between different compounds, means that the amount of test will varry due to the weight of whatever ester is attached.

 

[Castro_bigdog]

Maybe this helps. Test is test, all the esters do is deliver it or break it down at different rates. This is why Sustanon has multiple esters to try to arrive at the smoothest yield in the body. Example being it is designed to be injected every 3 weeks and provide the most stable blood levels between injections. Single ester preps are not as stable i.e. the shorter the ester would spike earlier in the 3 weeks and then taper to nothing while a very long ester would not provide much initially and build in later. So that's the job of esters and why sustanon is blended that way. It's about long periods between injection and achieving the most stable blood levels between those points. Test is test, the attached ester just controls the timing.

Now knowing that, all these different esters have a weight and it's like a spectrum. The lighter esters are the fastest acting and the fastest to clear - so think prop here and even suspension which has no ester. As the ester gets longer into a cyp or enanthate or decanoate these esters weigh more and more while they become slower and slower acting.

So now you know that each ester has weight, the longer the ester the heavier it is, the longer the ester the longer the time, that test is test regardless of the ester attached, and that test has a constant weight. So when you have 100mg of pure suspension, you have more test molecules than in 100mg of proprionate (because the attached prop ester increases the total weight so less test per total weight to make room for the ester). This continues right down the scale as the esters get longer you get fewer total testosterone molecules in the same total mg weight. This is one of the reasons why people say that suspension or short esters are stronger, you just plain old have more molecules per mg.

Your Sustanon breaks out how much of the weight is actual testosterone. So if you have 176mg of test in there, it's the same as 176mg of suspension (which has no ester). So in reality you are not getting 250mg of test a week, you are getting 176mg every injection. They don't gross up the total mg to equalize test content, they simply weigh the whole substance ester and all which, when you hold mg constant between different compounds, means that the amount of test will varry due to the weight of whatever ester is attached.

That is a very good post, good info bro

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Maybe this helps. Test is test, all the esters do is deliver it or break it down at different rates. This is why Sustanon has multiple esters to try to arrive at the smoothest yield in the body. Example being it is designed to be injected every 3 weeks and provide the most stable blood levels between injections. Single ester preps are not as stable i.e. the shorter the ester would spike earlier in the 3 weeks and then taper to nothing while a very long ester would not provide much initially and build in later. So that's the job of esters and why sustanon is blended that way. It's about long periods between injection and achieving the most stable blood levels between those points. Test is test, the attached ester just controls the timing.

Now knowing that, all these different esters have a weight and it's like a spectrum. The lighter esters are the fastest acting and the fastest to clear - so think prop here and even suspension which has no ester. As the ester gets longer into a cyp or enanthate or decanoate these esters weigh more and more while they become slower and slower acting.

So now you know that each ester has weight, the longer the ester the heavier it is, the longer the ester the longer the time, that test is test regardless of the ester attached, and that test has a constant weight. So when you have 100mg of pure suspension, you have more test molecules than in 100mg of proprionate (because the attached prop ester increases the total weight so less test per total weight to make room for the ester). This continues right down the scale as the esters get longer you get fewer total testosterone molecules in the same total mg weight. This is one of the reasons why people say that suspension or short esters are stronger, you just plain old have more molecules per mg.

Your Sustanon breaks out how much of the weight is actual testosterone. So if you have 176mg of test in there, it's the same as 176mg of suspension (which has no ester). So in reality you are not getting 250mg of test a week, you are getting 176mg every injection. They don't gross up the total mg to equalize test content, they simply weigh the whole substance ester and all which, when you hold mg constant between different compounds, means that the amount of test will varry due to the weight of whatever ester is attached.

Great post bro! K your way. ( post of the day if not the week)

 

[HSV]

Guys big thank-you to all for takeing the time to explain that to me.Ive asked several local gym "no it all legends", and none of them could explain it.Amazing how little some people know about what they have been doing to there body's for years.