sust + var +winny...sound good...need help deciding!

[tsaks]

I want to run a cycle that will lower bodyfat % and put on solid LBM. I have posted several times on cycles that I was thinking about but I am now seriously considering running something like this:
(for info. this will be my first cycle, 21 years old, i am 5'11", 210lbs., at about 15% b.f. I have been training steady for 6 months, off and on for several years. Two months ago I was 232 so I dropped about 22lbs. I want to get to 200lbs. before I start my cycle. My diet is clean:2000cals. per day 45%pro, 35%carbs, 20%fat.)

CYCLE:
Anavar(spanish generic) 40mg/ED Wk1-8 used in combo w/ V12 creatine 15mg./day
Sust 250 mg/wk Wk 1-6 (should i run it until wk 8?)
Winny 20mgEOD WK6-10

Once I start the cycle I will up the protein, lower carbs, and up the healthy fats. I will keep carbs around 100-150g/day for 3 days, and carb up every fourth day, about 300g. All carbs cease at 4pm (except postworkout). Cardio will be done in AM, weeks 1-6, 4 days/wk. wk 6-10 6 days a week.
Does this look like a good cycle? What type of post cycle therapy should I run? Any and all suggestions are encouraged. Keep in mind this is my first cycle so I don't want to go crazy. thanks guys!

 

[satchboogie]

no need for creatine. everything else looks decent.

 

[KILLER2001]

Creatine at 15 mg a day is great with var.

 

[the urge]

Doesn't look to bad bro. I would definately run the sust until week eight and then let it taper off as it does. The only i see is the overlapping of two 17-AA compounds, but then again it's only for two weeks-and your winny dose is not that high. I really don't think adding winny at 20 mg's EOD is even worth doing. Still that's a long time to run the orals (especially using winny) and having two weeks of combined usage. If your trying to cut, you may want to consider dropping the winny and adding eq at low to medium doses and run the var all the way through. This way you would still get some nice cuts, you could shoot the sust & eq together and only take one oral and that would be a nice summer cycle- good luck

 

[Mavy]

Looks like you have done your homework. I would substitute the Sust for EQ if you have access. It will give you more lean gains. I would try something simple like this ...

EQ 400: wk 1-8
Anavar 30mg/day: wk 1-8

Should give you some nice solid lean gains. If you insist on throwing in your sust, I would drop the EQ down to 200. I wouldnt run the whinny and anavar together for the 2 months, could be pretty intense, take some liver detox if you plan on doing so.

Good luck,
Mavy

 

[tsaks]

Should i run the winny everyday instead? I want the Winny towards the end but I was nervous about running it after running var for 8 weeks. Maybe I will throw in the eq. I am a little hesitant about eq as I have heard that it makes you incredibly hungry. I can control my appetite but should I worry about this? Is 400mg. good to run if i skip the sust??
What do you guys think about diet and cardio? Keep to my plan or any changes neccessary? Thanks for the info bros!!

 

[tsaks]

bump for more info

 

[tsaks]

Bro's come on. I need some help here. What about post cycle therapy? I am not sure what to run.
What sides can i expect from eq at 200-400 mg?

 

[ripper911]

drop the creatine and drop the sust......stick with a single ester test like enath or cyp this was you can control blood levels and get better gains 250 to 500mg is sufficent

 

[the urge]

I'm telling you dude, run the EQ and ox and add just a little test to maintain drive and sexual function. That's what I'm going to try this summer as I'm not looking for a huge weight gain and to cut up. I would say :

EQ :500-600mg's/wk 1-8(or 10)
ANAVAR: 40mg's/day wks 1-8 (or2-10)
SUST :250/wk(to 10days) or more if you want more size
-time your last shot9unless you can find cyp or enan.) of sust to be about three weeks before you finish the EQ/VAR, again assuming you just want to cut -the test is in there just to maintain baseline levels and not for size gain, and you shouldn't have to worry about using estrogen maintenece(such as l-dex) which can have an negative inpact on hdl/ldl heart ratios

 

[tsaks]

Urge, how do I time the sust and eq shots? Do I take them on the same day or seperate days? I don't think I am going to run the Eq that high. Maybe just 300-400mg/week, being as this is my first cycle. I want to see how I react to everything.

 

[the urge]

Man I know people hate when the're told this, and I hate to say it, but you owe it to yourself to do a little more research, and know exactly what you want and how to take care of yourself on the cycle. That being said, it really all depends on what your goals are. If you just want to cut w/ alittle size I would recommend at least 500 mg's of the EQ a week, maby 250,250 or 300, 200(because your not running that much test)w/ the 40 mg's /day of VAR. The EQ needs to be taken every three to four days, and some say twicw a week for the sust. For simplicities sake I would run 200-250mg's of sust every wk to 10 days (you can take the EQ &sust at the same time so figure your shots accordingly). Now if your looking for some size you could up the test, but again for a cutter with OX &EQ thest test is in there just to "keep things basline" IMO.Just remember that the sust will stay in your system for a little more than three weeks after last shotso plan your gear and post cycle thearapy accordingly. Tsaks you really don't even soud like your shure you know what to do you could follow this plan but do some reasearch and find out exactly what you want and how things work.
hope this helps though, good luck

 

[tsaks]

Well urge, I appreciate the help ,and as far as not knowing what I am doing, that is true in the case of the Eq. That is why it was not included in the original cycle I posted. I don't know that much about it, but being as you threw it in as a possible part of the cycle, I figured you knew about it, and therefore I decided to ask you. Besides isn't the point of posting to get info, hence "researching?" I do appreciate the help, I definitely do. But like I said with my first post, I am new to the AAS game and have changed my mind several times about what I wanted to do. That is why I posted in the first place. Eq sounds like it would be benificial to add. You cleared up a few of my concerns but several were left unanswered by yourself as well as others that posted.
For example, I originally asked for post cycle therapy suggestions for MY Cycle. I know basically what to take, but I wanted to double check by getting some AAS veterans opinions' on the matter. Another concern was taking the Eq and sust at the same time, which you did clear up.
As far as researching, I have been for a couple of months now. I know you had my best interest in mind so I don't take it personally and once again, the ideas are much appreciated.

 

[tsaks]

Well urge, I appreciate the help ,and as far as not knowing what I am doing, that is true in the case of the Eq. That is why it was not included in the original cycle I posted. I don't know that much about it, but being as you threw it in as a possible part of the cycle, I figured you knew about it, and therefore I decided to ask you. Besides isn't the point of posting to get info, hence "researching?" I do appreciate the help, I definitely do. But like I said with my first post, I am new to the AAS game and have changed my mind several times about what I wanted to do. That is why I posted in the first place. Eq sounds like it would be benificial to add. You cleared up a few of my concerns but several were left unanswered by yourself as well as others that posted.
For example, I originally asked for post cycle therapy suggestions for MY Cycle. I know basically what to take, but I wanted to double check by getting some AAS veterans opinions' on the matter. Another concern was taking the Eq and sust at the same time, which you did clear up.
As far as researching, I have been for a couple of months now. I know you had my best interest in mind so I don't take it personally and once again, the ideas are much appreciated.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

I like the urge's setup,in fact I'm hoping to run something quite similar to that myself this summer.I would hit it like this-
sust@250mgs/week 1-8
eq@600mgs/week 1-10
anavar@40mgs/day weeks 1-8

Clomid started week 13.