Sust only cycle or add deca ?

[Reps For Jesus]

Arimidex is fine, .5 mg eod to start. An AI will stop the conversion from test to estrogen, so yes it will help combat gyno. The higher your body fat % is, the higher chance you have of having estrogen related problems. By comfort zone, I mean where your estrogen isn't to high or to low. Every one is different so you have to find what dose works best for you. If you start to see signs of gyno, bump your arimidex and start using Nolva. Nolva is a breast cancer drug, and will stop estrogen from binding to breast tissue. People use it for gyno treatment and prevention. You may not need it, so only use it if you have to. If you notice the problem, start the Nolva and use it until you are done with PCT.

Unleashed and D-AA are natural supplements and they should be no problem getting them wherever you live. You will have to order online.

You will want to start your PCT at week 13. First, start by blasting HCG during weeks 11 and 12 to get your balls kicking again. 250-500 iu eod should suffice. Then start your SERM therapy after that. I would stick to Clomid only, unless you have a problem with gyno. In that case run both Clomid and Nolva. Start with 50mg of clomid per day and taper down for 4 weeks. If you need the Nolva, start from the beginning at 40 mg and taper down just like the Clomid and use for 4-6 weeks. You will also want to run your AI in PCT.

11-12 HCG 500 iu eod
13-16 Clomid 50/50/25/25
11-16 Arimidex .5 mg/eod
or
11-12 HCG 500 iu/eod
13-16 Clomid 50/50/25/25
13-16 Nolva 40/40/20/20
11-16 Armidex .5 mg/eod

 

[Bowserbadass]

That is absolute bollox believe me, if I was you I'd just get one ester of test like cup or enth...even with sust if you have some sides your not going to know if its the enth prop or cyp and if your adding deca too that's another compound...but if you r gonna use sustanon for 12 weeks with a good diet and training you will defo gain more then 3-8 lbs(will mostly be water)

If it's water wouldn't the cycle be pointless since I'd lose it as soon as I'm off the cycle ? And I think I might just stick to sust only with a armidex on hand or something

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Some of it will be water, but the majority of it will be muscle. The water will go away once you are off cycle, but the muscle will still be there. By no means would the cycle be pointless. Using an AI on cycle will limit the bloat you get from water. Don't do any of this "on hand" bullshit. Run it from the beginning.

 

[bonacris]

If it's water wouldn't the cycle be pointless since I'd lose it as soon as I'm off the cycle ? And I think I might just stick to sust only with a armidex on hand or something

Not every pound you gain on cycle is muscle.. with test and aromatizing compounds a lot is water..

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[Bowserbadass]

Arimidex is fine, .5 mg eod to start. An AI will stop the conversion from test to estrogen, so yes it will help combat gyno. The higher your body fat % is, the higher chance you have of having estrogen related problems. By comfort zone, I mean where your estrogen isn't to high or to low. Every one is different so you have to find what dose works best for you. If you start to see signs of gyno, bump your arimidex and start using Nolva. Nolva is a breast cancer drug, and will stop estrogen from binding to breast tissue. People use it for gyno treatment and prevention. You may not need it, so only use it if you have to. If you notice the problem, start the Nolva and use it until you are done with PCT.

Unleashed and D-AA are natural supplements and they should be no problem getting them wherever you live. You will have to order online.

You will want to start your PCT at week 13. First, start by blasting HCG during weeks 11 and 12 to get your balls kicking again. 250-500 iu eod should suffice. Then start your SERM therapy after that. I would stick to Clomid only, unless you have a problem with gyno. In that case run both Clomid and Nolva. Start with 50mg of clomid per day and taper down for 4 weeks. If you need the Nolva, start from the beginning at 40 mg and taper down just like the Clomid and use for 4-6 weeks. You will also want to run your AI in PCT.

11-12 HCG 500 iu eod
13-16 Clomid 50/50/25/25
11-16 Arimidex .5 mg/eod
or
11-12 HCG 500 iu/eod
13-16 Clomid 50/50/25/25
13-16 Nolva 40/40/20/20
11-16 Armidex .5 mg/eod

Okay so I'll do that aswell , thanks for the advice and would pull
Form be okay ? I know I can get that easy and my body far is around 16% I don't know if that would be considered as gyno prone,

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Pull Form?

The more body fat you have, the higher chance of having estrogen related sides are. 16% body fat is on the higher end of the spectrum of starting a cycle, but it's not terrible. A lot of people will tell you that you should not run a cycle if your body fat is that high, I personally think that is bullocks. You have a higher chance of getting sides, but you will be fine if you keep on top of it.

 

[LeanGain]

Okay so I'll do that aswell , thanks for the advice and would pull
Form be okay ? I know I can get that easy and my body far is around 16% I don't know if that would be considered as gyno prone,

U only need 0.25mg of adex eod adjust accordingly

 

[Bowserbadass]

Pull Form?

The more body fat you have, the higher chance of having estrogen related sides are. 16% body fat is on the higher end of the spectrum of starting a cycle, but it's not terrible. A lot of people will tell you that you should not run a cycle if your body fat is that high, I personally think that is bullocks. You have a higher chance of getting sides, but you will be fine if you keep on top of it.

Pill form of pcts * so as long as I take the armidex, train eat I should be fine and leave the cycle wit good gains no gyno or permanent damage ?

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Pill form is fine.

That would be the idea behind a cycle and doing everything correctly. Everything should be fine.

1-10 Sust 250-375mg/week
7-12 Anavar 60-80mg/day
11-12 HCG 500iu/eod
13-16 Clomid 50/50/25/25
1-16 Arimidex .5 mg/eod

Have nolva ready just in case. Also, make sure you have some cycle/liver support, especially while on Anavar. I am sure other people will chime in with their opinions, but this is what I'd do if I were you. Good Luck bro

 

[LeanGain]

Pill form of pcts * so as long as I take the armidex, train eat I should be fine and leave the cycle wit good gains no gyno or permanent damage ?

If your gyno prone then that's a different story but start your adex at 0.25mg eod then adjust accordingly....what blend is your sust?