sust front load??

[lift2grow(Chargeback Ban)]

Ok guys....

I'd really like your opinion on this.


deca 400 mg. for 10 weeks and the sust while 500 a week I feel is too much for me and 250 may be a bit on the weak side how about front loading the sust for the first 3 weeks@ 500 then go back down to 250 for the remaining 7 weeks??

I feel this will be in the middle of 500 a week and 250 a week.

DO you think I will beneifit from the front loading or should I just stick to 250 per week for 10 week straight??

I really don't want to run the sust@ 500 straight through. I am 5-11 and weigh 170. BEen working out 3 years and weighed 140 before I started.. While I am still a skinny malink I feel I am ready and am very serious about working hard and doing this cycle properly

look foward to hearing the pros opinion on this matter

thanks in advance,
C



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02-Apr-2002 09:17 PM

 

[Andy13]

I respect your persistance.. But please, no cross posting.. Be patient.. You will get a slew of opinions on this by posting in one forum... Or, you could always use TFSE...

 

[Audio8]

Always frontload sust.

 

[tzan]

I've only had one experience frontloading and it was with deca + omna's. I frontloaded them at 750mg + 600mg each. I really couldn't tell you if it worked or not because I got the damn flu after the first week, but I would love to hear more opinions on frontloading.

 

[Latamier]

If this is your first cycle frontload the sus at 500mg and run the rest at 250mg. You should see great results either way since this is your first cycle. Oh, and dont forget the clomid!

 

[sausage]

why would you want to front load sust? you have short and fast acting esters in it it doesnt make sense to me to front load i would do a gram a week.

 

[lift2grow(Chargeback Ban)]

a gram a week???

yeah maybe for you. This would be my first cycle bro. I think that would be a bit much no??

There are tons of reasons why front loading is good I just don't feellike explaining them all now.....

peace,

C

 

[sausage]

oh i didnt know it was your first cycle. i know the reasons of front loading but i dont think you have to front load sust,i could be wrong.

 

[justwannagetsum]

There are tons of reasons why front loading is good I just don't feellike explaining them all now

I agree. Frontloading sust is difficult to figure out the right amount. But for cyp, I think ou should front load at double your intended weekly cycle dosage for 1 or 2 weeks and with deca or EQ, 3x weekly amount. If Cp is a 2 week ester and you plan on doing 400 a week, by hitting 800 at first, you will get 400 mgs the 1st week so really only 1 time front load is nessecary. If EQ is a 3 week ester, then 3 x the amount will put 1/3 the amount, or your intended dosage in 1st week.

DISCLAIMER, this may be wrong, but its my semi-educated guess/theory

 

[benchboy55]

i jsut started my omnas this week and i am frontloading 1000 mg for 2 weeks and then 750 mg for the enxt 8 weeks!alos 35 mg d-bol1-6 and liquidex 1mg eod

 

[Audio8]

why would you want to front load sust? you have short and fast acting esters in it it doesnt make sense to me to front load i would do a gram a week.

Ok I've explained this many times, but why not add one more to the pile.

The reason why you should frontload sust is because of the combination of esters. When you inject say 250mg of sust, you're only getting like 20mg of prop...thus froantloading allows you to used the prop most efficiently for the first few weeks while the slower esters gradually build up in your blood stream..make sense? good.

 

[jmg141]

I am planning on doing my first cycle too, simiiar to the first posts. 250 sus wk1-10 and ttokkyo eq 400 wk1-10. I was going to frontload the sus the first 3 weeks at 500 but now I am thinking about doing 250 the first couple weeks so that my body gets used to it and I will have a lower chance of getting sus flu. Then week 3 or 4 bump it up to 500 till week 8 or 9 and tapper down with 250. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[NFG123]

i jsut started my omnas this week and i am frontloading 1000 mg for 2 weeks and then 750 mg for the enxt 8 weeks!alos 35 mg d-bol1-6 and liquidex 1mg eod

I agree. I would toss deca aside, run 500 mg sus the whole time and use dbol weeks 1-4. Im doing a cycle just like this. There is no need to frontload when you have dbol for the first four weeks.

get lots of ALA and water too!

NFG

 

[Audio8]

jmg141,

You will see better results by frontloading than going with the pyramid method you described. Frontloading is more effiecient. Since the long-acting esters are slow to get your blood levels up, frontloading will help give them an extra boost so your maximizing your time. Meanwhile, the prop is being used most efficiently while the slower esters come in.

There is no need to frontload when you have dbol for the first four weeks.

NFG123,
Frontloading will still optimize your cycle, with or without Dbol.

 

[NFG123]

From the posts of many in the past-the efficacy of frontloading is questionable. Many say it doesnt help at all. I still maintain if you use dbol, there is no real reason to frontload.

NFG

 

[lonewulf]

I think the frontloading thing is debatable. Some like it, some don't. Personally I think it makes since to front load, to really shock the body when it is most receptive and fresh.-WULF

 

[Andy13]

There is no need to frontload when you have dbol for the first four weeks.
NFG

This has been discussed as well..

dbol in the beginning of a cycle vs frontloading injectibles


Perhaps it's time for a repost..

 

[Audio8]

Thanks for the backup andy...good post by the way...bumpin it for ya.

 

[Andy13]

For what it's worth...

Mathematically, sustanon's esters can be averaged and the *theoretical* graph is indicative of a testosterone ester with a 4-6 day half life.

Andy

 

[Audio8]

For what it's worth...

Mathematically, sustanon's esters can be averaged and the *theoretical* graph is indicative of a testosterone ester with a 4-6 day half life.

Andy

Maybe a better method for caculating proper time to begin clomid therapy.

 

[Ash]

I do this when I frontload, it seems to work good for me-

WK1 1000mg
WK2 750mg
WK3-10 500mg
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"Names Ash...Housewares"

 

[yorick]

you feel that 500 is to much and 250 to low?

how about every 4 days ore every 5 days then?
4 is 437,5 mg a week
and 5 is 350mg a week!

and always frontload the double of of what you are taking for the first week!