Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I can get Sust already. Is this a good idea for a first cycle? I want only about 15lbs. The reason i never considered sust before is because I don't want water retention and I want keepable gains. I have been wanting Eq. I won't be able to get that for a while though and I am getting impatient. I have a really clean diet. Could I use Sust with something like liquidex or whatever to get what I want? Thnx for any input.
Sust for a first cyle?
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go_hard_80
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yup so this
sust wks 1-8. or 10 500mgs sust a week but eth would be better unless you wanna run the sust eod which is probally to much for you unless your 300lbs
ldex wks 1-14 0.5mg day
clomid 3 weeks after last sust shot
day 1 300mgs clomid
day2-10 100mgs clomid a day
days 11-21 50mgs clomid a day
BTW: 500mgs sust a wk is still a good choice for newbs..... expect a good 15lbs of that with proper training, ytake your ala, vits, 300+ grms of protiena day with a gallon of water a day and you are set up for a very sweet cycle
16 sust amps
36 clomid tabs
ENJOY!!!
go_hard_80
sust wks 1-8. or 10 500mgs sust a week but eth would be better unless you wanna run the sust eod which is probally to much for you unless your 300lbs
ldex wks 1-14 0.5mg day
clomid 3 weeks after last sust shot
day 1 300mgs clomid
day2-10 100mgs clomid a day
days 11-21 50mgs clomid a day
BTW: 500mgs sust a wk is still a good choice for newbs..... expect a good 15lbs of that with proper training, ytake your ala, vits, 300+ grms of protiena day with a gallon of water a day and you are set up for a very sweet cycle
16 sust amps
36 clomid tabs
ENJOY!!!
go_hard_80
Zerxes
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If you have never done a cycle before bro, then you are going to friggin explode on whatever it is that you decide to take, so Sust is as good of choice as any in my opinion. However, you will need some Clomid at the end of the cycle or you are going to lose most of the gains you get from it. If I were you bro, I would wait until I can aquire the EQ as well, and either stack them together, or better yet(assuming that you wont be able to get the Clomid) BRIDGE it at the last week of the Sust cycle to prevent crashing. IF you dont get(or dont have access to) the Clomid, then just start a cycle of Creatine about two weeks before your EQ cycle expires. Just my .02. The liquidex will be sufficient for water-retention as well.
go_hard_80
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Zerxes said:
r u a 15 yo giving advice, your saying its ok to hit up a cycle without clomid and then hitting up a "creatine cycle
"research your stuff first bro, you weer on the right track for the most part, but you clomid ideas are fuckes
just my 2cc's
go_hard_80
Zerxes
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go_hard_80 said:
r u a 15 yo giving advice, your saying its ok to hit up a cycle without clomid and then hitting up a "creatine cycle
research your stuff first bro, you weer on the right track for the most part, but you clomid ideas are fuckes
just my 2cc's
go_hard_80
Send me a book on Ebonics so I can translate that please. My advice was given ASSUMING that he wouldn't be able to get the Clomid man. I guess you couldnt understand that, since it wasn't written in "homeboy".
go_hard_80
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c, you just proved your stupidity, dont even suggest that he run a full cycle without clomid, dont start it until you have itZerxes said:
you can get it at pumpnpose.com, LEGALLY
dont tell him creqatine will be ok, because it wont, using creatine, he will supress his T for months and would have tons of circulating E(estrogen) and he would probally loose all gains if not, possible to loose more than he gains9very good chance of that too),
creatine is not anabolic, it only helps you if your body is in a anabolic state, that is circulating T
please dont listen to this moron, you will be upset
go_hard_80
Zerxes
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genarr3 said:
Very true. But it will help him retain more size than if he were to quit cold-turkey, as it were. Again, my advice was assuming he couldn't get the Clomd. If he has access to it though, then that's the way to go no doubt. Good luck to the guy. Damn, I can remember the results I got when I did my first cycle-once upon a time! Test suspension by Steris, so you can imagine the strength gains.
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Counterstrike
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Prop is best for first cycle even though you'll need atleast 2 shots a week. Always use L-dex especially with test. Sus has i think like 125- 150mg of Prop dosn't it? Thast pretty much to me the important one. I would just get Prop itself ad it doesn't take no 3-4 weeks to kickin should kick in the first week and do it for first cycle at 200-300 mg a week for 6-7 weeks .
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Counterstrike
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yeah yeah yeah TEst is test tired of that saying too many people gotten beter results of Prop at a lower dose compare to enean or cyp I remember two guys on did cyp and enan prior at 500-750 mg a week and got same resutls of 300mg a week of prop so screw that test is test it is but mg per mg i think it out weights it I will due a test soon using Prop and i will know for myself
genarr3 said:
Hear Hear!
Prop is quicker to work, and quicker to leave... which means more injection frequency... but test IS test... the only difference in the ester is the half-life, and how long it takes to kick in. Which tend to usually coincide with each other... There are some that are cleaner however... Sustanon is great, nice and long lasting, "taperesk" as it were... but Omnas make me break out like a bastard... I think that might be related to the fact that they are made in Poland, where the standards for drug production are lower... as with most western European countries...
<No offence to Polish at all...
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Counterstrike
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Actually I was off by a littl when i said 125 of prop but I know it ain't no damn 30 mg of prop. Its Testosterone propionate 30mg, Testosterone phenylpropionate 60 mg, Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg, Testosterone decanoate 100 mggenarr3 said:
90mg total of prop 30 of prop 60 of phenyl prop same shit maybe a day or so extra for half life now what about the isocaproate is that a week half life or two weeks for that one? Overall I always hear that Prop is better. thats what i would use for first cycle due to noticeable gains within a week or less and out of the system which would be great for short cycle liek 6 weeks long. SUS is only good due to the prop in my opinion. otherwise take you forever to notice anything
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