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SUST & DECA TTOKYO RESULTS - 40 solid lbs

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JUST_SUST

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Just finished my second cycle - I'm 22 years old. I'm 5'11 and weighed 174 before my cycle. It is now five weeks after I've done my last injection and I'm still at a steady 213 (I got up to 217 or 218 but have now lost some weight/water post-cycle). I started clomid 3 weeks after my last injection and plan on using it for 3 weeks.

My cycle was:
week 1-10: 500 mg sust, 400 mg deca
week 2-12: 25-50 mg Proviron ed
week 13: 100 mg clomid ed, Creatine 25 g ed
week 14: 50 mg clomid ed, Creatine 10 g ed
week 15: 50 mg clomid eod, Creatine 10 g ed

These results have reaffirmed my opinion that TEST should go in just about every cycle - especially for bulking - and that TTOKYO is the best manufacturer of quality AS supplements to date.

How long should I weight before starting a Prop/winny cycle (I'm guessing about 15 weeks?! - this seems like such a long time after the results I just got from my last cycle)...
 
AWESOME RESULTS !!! How much bodt fat did you gain while on your cycle ? I would wait about 8-10 weeks to start your next cycle.

M18
 
holy shit.. nice gains bro. how'd you do sides wise? the proviron work pretty good for you? what was in your first cycle and ho would you compare it to your second cycle?
 
M18 - My bodyfat didn't change much. I was at 10% and now I'm at 12%.

DECEM - I didn't have any sides. No "bitch" tits, no acne for the first 8 weeks (there's a few on my shoulders a little now but not anything really noticeable), no hairloss (a friend suggested I use Niserol shampoo to help with this). My first cycle was D-Bol for 3 weeks with Deca @300 for 8 weeks. My weight jumped from about 175 to 185 (but my bf actuallywent down).

It's kind of crazy when I think about how much weight I put on. People were asking me what the hell was going on because it wasn't something I could really hide. People I didn't even know were now coming up to me in the gym asking questions about lifting, etc. I still don't know how my girlfriend hasn't figured it out. My parents asked me flat out if I was using steroids.

Fuck it though I felt & feel great. I've never enjoyed lifting so much (on a side note, Gold's GYM is the only decent place to workout here in San Jose, CA).

Any suggestions on how to stack the Winny with Test Prop or Enanthate?
 
If you want to do Winny-Prop or Winny Enanthate then try this
Enanthate at 500-750mg/week for weeks 1-10
Winny at 50mg/Day for weeks 3-10
or sub the Enanthate for Prop and do Prop at 100mg/every other day for weeks 1-10
Congrats again on the great gains

M18
 
Simple yet, EXTREMELY effective!! Good work,bro!! Whay was your diet like? What was a typical day of eating for you?(from breakfast all the way down to the last meal of the day)-THE PROTOTYPE
 
JUST_SUST said:

These results have reaffirmed my opinion that TEST should go in just about every cycle - especially for bulking - and that TTOKYO is the best manufacturer of quality AS supplements to date.
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Great results bro and not to bring you down but the above statement is pretty bold for someone who has completed 2 cycles.
 
IRON GAME - It was only my second cycle but about 10
of my close friends have also done anywhere from two to five cycles and I've seen that TTOKYO gives great results. I know there are good products out there by other manufacturers, I'm just putting my two cents in that if I had the choice I'd go TTOKYO over most other brands (and it's cheap too).

PROTOTYPE - I trained 4 on 1 off and just ate all day long. I tried to consume 175-225g of protein a day. Here's a typical day (I tried to follow this everyday but on days where I didn't work out I ate a little less):

8:30 - oatmeal, cereal or eggs, toast, and a protein shake.

11:00 - A tuna sandwitch & one or two pieces of bread w/ peanut butter.

12:30 - Work out.

2:00 (Right after workout) - Protein shake & 25-50 g of simple sugars like a gatorade or a glass of juice (I've heard this kicks your insulin levels up & it is needed after a workout).

2:30 - Pasta & 0.5-0.75 lb. filet or other kind of steak

5:30 - Eat out for dinner (no fast food).

8:00 - Another sandwitch (tuna, roast beef, etc).

11:00 - Protein shake.

...Hopefully this helps somebody else sometime since it helped me...
 
Just curious no flame.


I did the same cycle as my freind 500mg SUS and 600mg Deca 8 weeks but I used Arimidex and he didn't.

He gained 35 pounds I gained 17. We had almost identicle stats pre cycle.

12 weeks after cycle I've only lost 2-3 pounds depending on if I eat before I weigh myself. He lost 20 pounds. Putting us about dead even with gaines after 12 weeks. How much of that is water? You know yourself you didn't gain 39 pounds of muscle....
 
there are european drug manufacturers like ORGANON and SCHERING and you say that "TTOKYO is the best manufacturer of quality AS supplements to date"????????? :confused:

come on bro,just GET SERIOUS!:rolleyes:
 
NORMA-MAN said:
there are european drug manufacturers like ORGANON and SCHERING and you say that "TTOKYO is the best manufacturer of quality AS supplements to date"????????? :confused:
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That was my point exactly, Ttokkyo has a very innovative product line and are catered to the bodybuilder and while they are always going to be top notch products they are never going to have the quality of Schering.
 
How much weight did you gain weekly?? I am on about the same cycle right now 600sust 300deca 50ed Winny. Did all the weight come on around week 5-8 or did you gradually gain??
 
Gyno-milker said:
Just curious no flame.


I did the same cycle as my freind 500mg SUS and 600mg Deca 8 weeks but I used Arimidex and he didn't.

He gained 35 pounds I gained 17. We had almost identicle stats pre cycle.

12 weeks after cycle I've only lost 2-3 pounds depending on if I eat before I weigh myself. He lost 20 pounds. Putting us about dead even with gaines after 12 weeks. How much of that is water? You know yourself you didn't gain 39 pounds of muscle....
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very good point
 

DECEM - I didn't have any sides. No "bitch" tits, no acne for the first 8 weeks (there's a few on my shoulders a little now but not anything really noticeable), no hairloss (a friend suggested I use Niserol shampoo to help with this). My first cycle was D-Bol for 3 weeks with Deca @300 for 8 weeks. My weight jumped from about 175 to 185 (but my bf actuallywent down).[/B]
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I'm confused Just Sust. You said your first cycle you went from 175lbs to 185lbs. This cycle you just finished (your second cycle) you said you started at 174lbs and went to 213lbs. Did you lose all your gains from your first cycle or something??
 
JUST_SUST said:
TTOKYO is the best manufacturer of quality AS supplements to date.
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LOL. You might want to try a few other brands before making a statement like this. Upjohn, Schering, Organon ...
 
I'll vouch for Just_Sust. I don't think he went under 180 though before that big cycle. He has been at least 210 since the end of that months ago. A lot of it is diet. Him and I used to split a pizza, get a steak, AND eat a bowl of pasta with a protein shake after we lifted. We are lucky that we were both relatively lean and did not put on fat doing this. I see this post originated almost a year ago. I think Just_Sust finished (or is finishing) a similar cycle now. Update?
 
sk* said:
TT is animal gear, it is intended for animals. I wouldn't even touch it unless I wanted to use a product that wasn't made in human form (eq, fina).
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I really wonder if tt makes it's stuff thinking that it will be ANIMALS using it's various products, I think it makes this stuff under the GUISE of being for animals, knowing full well it will be humans consuming (namely U.S. bodybuilders) it's products.
 
i did TT my last cycle and was not impressed. I had better gains off Ultragan than i did TT EQ. And, as far as the best company out there?&^$%&$&% hahahahaha, i would have to say Organon, or Scherring.
 
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