sust/deca/tbol/whinny cycle

[G86]

My stats are 6'4', 235LBS about 12-15% body fat, age 26. I am planning on my next cycle and would love a second opinion. I like to plan my cycles out thoroughly before starting. My cycle I plan on doing is:

Hgh 100iu kit, 1month or 2months before beginning the AAS cycle I will build up to 5iu’s for 5 days on 2 days off, I will continue this for 1-2 years

20 week cycle

Week 1-20 Sust 250 at 750mg/wk
Week 1-15 Deca 300 at 600mg/wk
Week 1-5 Tbol 10mg at 50-55mg/ED
Week 5-15 Whinny 25mg at 50-75mg/ED
Week 1-20 adex 1mg at 0.5-1mg/ED
Week 18-22 HCG at 2500iu/wk
Week 22-26 Clomid at 50mg/ED
Week 22-26 Nolvadex or adex? Unsure which to use I usually just continue the adex throughtout PCT and keep nolvadex on hand in case of gyno and letro too. Your opinion on my PCT and cycle would be much appreciated.

Thanks,


G86

 

[zwhit]

15 straight weeks on methylated orals is waaayy longer than I would ever think about going. I'd probably just use the winstrol the last 5 weeks of the cycle.

that's too much HCG for those 5 weeks, too, IMO. I wouldn't go over 1000ius/week. Hell, 500ius/week plumps my nuts up nicely, but I usually run it through most of the cycle.

That's a big cycle. I hope you're training for some kind of competition.

 

[ppgfreak]

Sust 750mg for 20 weeks! And winny 75mg ed from week 5-15!
Haha now this is the kind of cycle I like to hear about. I personally love it, and I would run 80% of that cycle (not a deca fan) this is the kind of cycle my friends run all the time.

I will tell you the truth though. A lot of people on this forum are experts. So they will do as much as they can while still being safe. So some members will not like your cycle. It is clearly on the unhealthy side and dangerous.

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[abomb1]

agreed...your cycle is abusive of your liver...15 weeks of c17a-alkylated orals?
pull it back babe. half the orals(in dose and duration) also are you bulking,cutting or playing for srength?

 

[joeblow12345]

My stats are 6'4', 235LBS about 12-15% body fat, age 26. I am planning on my next cycle and would love a second opinion. I like to plan my cycles out thoroughly before starting. My cycle I plan on doing is:

Hgh 100iu kit, 1month or 2months before beginning the AAS cycle I will build up to 5iu’s for 5 days on 2 days off, I will continue this for 1-2 years

20 week cycle

Week 1-20 Sust 250 at 750mg/wk
Week 1-15 Deca 300 at 600mg/wk
Week 1-5 Tbol 10mg at 50-55mg/ED
Week 5-15 Whinny 25mg at 50-75mg/ED
Week 1-20 adex 1mg at 0.5-1mg/ED
Week 18-22 HCG at 2500iu/wk
Week 22-26 Clomid at 50mg/ED
Week 22-26 Nolvadex or adex? Unsure which to use I usually just continue the adex throughtout PCT and keep nolvadex on hand in case of gyno and letro too. Your opinion on my PCT and cycle would be much appreciated.

Thanks,


G86

First thing if your going to run deca you need caber in case you start having prolactin issues. Definitely dont use nolva with deca as it increases sensitivity to prolactin. Your adex dose may be a bit high, I would start with 0.5 eod then raise it to Ed if needed. And 500 ius a week of hcg is plenty. If your going to run Winny for 10 Weeks go with injectable Winny. The orals are going to be hell on your liver for 15 Weeks. Your definitely gling to want to run some liver protection regardless. With the clomid 25 mgs day is plenty, and I would also throw in some post cycle and unleashed with it. And lastly with the hgh start at 2ius a day and see how your body reacts.

 

[abomb1]

prolactin? you mean progestin issues? deca is a progestin. as far as I know it has no prolactin-based side effects....show me the studies man. other than that great suggestions bro.

 

[joeblow12345]

prolactin? you mean progestin issues? deca is a progestin. as far as I know it has no prolactin-based side effects....show me the studies man. other than that great suggestions bro.

Have you ever ran deca? I have several times. I seen with my own eyes, my nipples leaking on my first run. Then I began taking caber and within days it subsided. Every time since that I have ran deca and tren, I have included caber and never had any issue again. Im not a scientist, and I dont have any BS study to base my logic on. I have firsthand, real life experience to base my decisions on. If you run deca without caber or prami good luck. Its your life make your own choice.

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Have you ever ran deca? I have several times. I seen with my own eyes, my nipples leaking on my first run. Then I began taking caber and within days it subsided. Every time since that I have ran deca and tren, I have included caber and never had any issue again. Im not a scientist, and I dont have any BS study to base my logic on. I have firsthand, real life experience to base my decisions on. If you run deca without caber or prami good luck. Its your life make your own choice.

This is excellent advice! You ought to listen to this bro!

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[abomb1]

assuming caber is anti-prolactin,it will alleviate some of the deca side effects...but through seperate pathways.
side efects being nipple discharge, sexual side-effects(not being able to keep an erection). also rubbing your nipples spikes
prolactin levels in males so....just sayin'

 

[Texas Monster]

Run the orals that long and find out the hard way that the only way to put on muscle is if you have a healthy body.

If your internals can not keep up which they will not be able to on this kind of cycle good luck putting on any muscle past week 10.

You will have demenishing returns from this kind of cycle.

Now I am not opposed to longer cycles but if you run longer cycles then you have to keep your health in check the entire time. This means being conservative on your orals and being very strict on your dosages.

My next cycle is going to be a 22 weeker as well but thought out a little bit more conservatively than yours.

My next cycle is going to be

Week 1-16 Eq 600mg
Week 1-16 Test c 300 mg
Week 1-4 Tbol 40mg
Week 17-22 Anavar 80mg
Week 1-7 Npp 300 mg
Week 17-22 Test prop 100mg eod

PCT starts week 23.

Compare cycles and then think about your cycle. And in your case PCT needs to start week 23 not 22.