sust and deca?

[lee b]

have been bulking for a few months now but what i really want is to pack on some serious muscle fast, so im about to start my first cycle.
was gona go for a deca only cycle but after reading the forums i realised i need some test in there so im gona add sust to the deca.
any of u guys give me an idea what sort of dosage to use for the both.
i can basically get as much as i want but because this is my first cycle i dont want to use too high a dose, would like to see how i react to the stuff.
could any of u guys give me a example cycle that would give me good gains but isnt going to mad.
thanks, by the way my weight is 170

 

[sweed]

ok.. im sure you've heard the "first cycle opinions" so ill ask, why not just test?
for a first cycle, you should already have the dosages and pct planned out for us to critique. btw what are your stats? 170 gettin ready to juice? you better be pretty short.

 

[lee b]

this is what i was gona go for

1-10 deca 200mg/wk
1-10 sust 250 mg/wk

hav clomid for after cycle and hav nolvadex just incase i need it
does this sound any good?

 

[ruggermu]

Personnal opinion do double that dose of one inject or the other, for better results. preferably test. I think 500/week sust is your best option. you'll have great results and sides will be minimal. Run l-dex .5 ed with it and you can dodge the bloat.

 

[ryan04]

I would just go for 500 mgs of sust every week. Thats all you need for a 1st cycle. If your gonna add deca I would use at least 300 mgs a week, but I think for a 1st cycle you'd be better off stacking with some dbol instead of deca.
Welcome to the wonderful world of steroids, where men envy you and women drool over you.

 

[lee b]

cant get any dbol. would i get any sides from that dose of deca and sust?

 

[ruggermu]

cant get any dbol. would i get any sides from that dose of deca and sust?

Possible and the problem is you won't know if it'f from sust or deca to know how to combat it. That's why people suggest single inject first time to see how you react to it then add another.

 

[Slyder190]

Doses look too low. Beyond that, I will tell you that both esrers take so long to clear you should really add Prop or Suspension at the end, going that way for about 3 weeks after your last shot.

 

[ElMatador]

I think it is good idea to start with 250mg of Sus...and you can increase it if everything is OK...

 

[zach01]

250 a week for 12 and learn from there. See if you need any anti's and prepare for pct's. If you start higher it will be harder to adjust if you dont know your body.

have been bulking for a few months now but what i really want is to pack on some serious muscle fast, so im about to start my first cycle.
was gona go for a deca only cycle but after reading the forums i realised i need some test in there so im gona add sust to the deca.
any of u guys give me an idea what sort of dosage to use for the both.
i can basically get as much as i want but because this is my first cycle i dont want to use too high a dose, would like to see how i react to the stuff.
could any of u guys give me a example cycle that would give me good gains but isnt going to mad.
thanks, by the way my weight is 170

 

[mr.huge]

have been bulking for a few months now but what i really want is to pack on some serious muscle fast, so im about to start my first cycle.
was gona go for a deca only cycle but after reading the forums i realised i need some test in there so im gona add sust to the deca.
any of u guys give me an idea what sort of dosage to use for the both.
i can basically get as much as i want but because this is my first cycle i dont want to use too high a dose, would like to see how i react to the stuff.
could any of u guys give me a example cycle that would give me good gains but isnt going to mad.
thanks, by the way my weight is 170

Ok first off if your looking for a quick fix to muscle gain there is none. So your gonna fail at your goal. Next If this is your first cycle it is gonna be most important that you have everything you need before you even think about using. I can see your eager to try a/s but if you want to use a/s and be smart about use then you should do some more research before sticking yourself with pins and expecting something you are not gonna get. I am sorry but it really disturbs me to think people forget about how important nutrition is and proper training & rest is when seeking muscle gains. The key to your success is consistency you need to be consistent in every aspect, cardiovasular exercise, diet, training, and proper supplementation, you also need to be mentally focused in which many are not. These are very important things to consider when contemplating use.


Mr.Huge

 

[Indy]

this is what i was gona go for

1-10 deca 200mg/wk
1-10 sust 250 mg/wk

hav clomid for after cycle and hav nolvadex just incase i need it
does this sound any good?

No no bro, always keep the test dose higher than the deca, and you will have less chance of having deca dick or any libido issues for that matter.

 

[marklm725]

hello buddy. first off if the common myth of stacking deca with a test supplement is usually because of the sexual side affects (limp dick) that deca gives you. if its your first cycle only use 1 steroid. if you jump right into 2 you are cutting off your future potential. i would stick with straight up sustanon if i was you. the steroids actually are in your system for an extra 2-3+ weeks especially sustanon because it has the test deconate blended in it which has a very long half life. dont go too much too soon. why the 6 week cycle you ask? Your body recoops much faster from it and as i said, its in your system atleast 2-3 more weeks so thats 8-10weeks right their. shorter cycles are just as efficient if not more than longer cycles. i myself am about to start a 200mg/wk for 6 wks sustanon then 1 wk of 400mg primo then start PCT. good luck check mesomorphosis.com for great info.

 

[musketeer]

REALLY try and get that Dbol! If you can start off with 4 weeks of 20mg Day, it will make a HUGE difference. Sust is notoriously slow at kicking in.

 

[lee b]

as its my first cycle im gona go with the 250mg /wk of sust. just to see how my body reacts to it. how much could i expect to gain from this if my training and diet is good?

 

[musketeer]

Expect to see little or nothing.



You have been warned!

 

[lee b]

wat u recommend for a first sust only cycle?

 

[musketeer]

Like I said, add some Dianabol at 20mg a day for the first 4 weeks. That way, whilst the sust is building up over the first month, the fast acting Dbol will get you going.

250mg of sust a week is very little (perhaps 2 or 3 times your natural level). Adding 20mg a day of Dbol will ramp the anabolics up to 400mg a week which is much more like wat you will need to grow.

I do not encourage you to take steroids at all, but if you are going to do it then you definitely should do it properly. There is no point in doing a cycle which at best will hardly give you any results. Have anti-estrogens to hand and use post cycle therapy too.

 

[gymratforlife]

wat u recommend for a first sust only cycle?

3g a week.















J/K 500 mg a week will do you good.

 

[lee b]

thinking bout adding deca to the sust. would 250mg/wk sust and 200mg/wk deca be a good first cycle. have been reading a lot of websites and they seem to think that i would gain a lot of this cycle considering its my first.

 

[gymratforlife]

thinking bout adding deca to the sust. would 250mg/wk sust and 200mg/wk deca be a good first cycle. have been reading a lot of websites and they seem to think that i would gain a lot of this cycle considering its my first.

Bro you keep asking the same question over and over again if your not going to listen anyways just do what you think its right.250mg week sust and 200 deca will give you nothing.You need to go with 500mg sust a week period.