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sust 250 for a cutting cycle ?

VictorBR

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damn this thing , I bought some test prop ( lots of it indeed ) for my cutting cycle and now everyone is saying it is fake . damn :evil:

Well , my cycle was going to be test prop , HGH , eq and winny , aromasin. ( I was going to run 500 mg / week of test prop )

NOw , I can get sust 250 here on the pharm with a prescription so it is 100 % real , I am thinking in switching from prop to sust .

I will be running 12.5 mg aromasin EOD during my cycle , do you guy think I should be concerned with water retention and gyno ? Does sust usually retains water ? Or is it ok for a cutting cycle ? Keep in mind I will be using aromasin during my whole cycle .

Victor
 
i run sus on all my cycles a little water but i also take nolva and a-dex so for me its not really that bad.drink plenty of water.
 
Regardless, testosterone is testosterone and it very beneficial for fat loss

Testosterone affects fat loss in one of two ways. Just like a car, your fat cells have a series of brakes and accelerators. The parts of a fat cell that accelerate the release of fat are called beta-receptors. The parts of a fat cell that put the brakes on fat loss are known as alpha- receptors.

The distribution of brakes and accelerators on each fat cell is one reason why certain parts of your body shed fat faster than others. Women, for example, often have a hard time losing fat from their hips. That's because the fat cells in that area have a higher ratio of alpha- to beta-receptors.

If a fat cell has more beta-receptors, it will release stored fat more quickly than one with fewer beta-receptors. That's where testosterone appears to help. By increasing the number of beta-receptors, testosterone makes it easier to lose stored fat.

Having said that, you should be gyno free if you are using Aromasin. Water retention is another issue but it should be moderate to minimal with the combination you are planning to use in conjunction with Aromasin. Don't forget, GH will cause you to hold some water as well.

Although EQ is a great drug when dieting, anything above 400 mgs causes me to hold some water. Even at 400 mgs I start to hold a bit. Nothing dramatic though. I prefer to use Primobolan when dieting.

One of my favorite and most effective cycles was Test, Primo, Winstrol and GH. I gained some serious quality muscle while dropping body fat so quickly that it literally felt like I was leaner every day.
 
Jenetic said:
Regardless, testosterone is testosterone and it very beneficial for fat loss

Testosterone affects fat loss in one of two ways. Just like a car, your fat cells have a series of brakes and accelerators. The parts of a fat cell that accelerate the release of fat are called beta-receptors. The parts of a fat cell that put the brakes on fat loss are known as alpha- receptors.

The distribution of brakes and accelerators on each fat cell is one reason why certain parts of your body shed fat faster than others. Women, for example, often have a hard time losing fat from their hips. That's because the fat cells in that area have a higher ratio of alpha- to beta-receptors.

If a fat cell has more beta-receptors, it will release stored fat more quickly than one with fewer beta-receptors. That's where testosterone appears to help. By increasing the number of beta-receptors, testosterone makes it easier to lose stored fat.

Having said that, you should be gyno free if you are using Aromasin. Water retention is another issue but it should be moderate to minimal with the combination you are planning to use in conjunction with Aromasin. Don't forget, GH will cause you to hold some water as well.

Although EQ is a great drug when dieting, anything above 400 mgs causes me to hold some water. Even at 400 mgs I start to hold a bit. Nothing dramatic though. I prefer to use Primobolan when dieting.

One of my favorite and most effective cycles was Test, Primo, Winstrol and GH. I gained some serious quality muscle while dropping body fat so quickly that it literally felt like I was leaner every day.

cool good post.....does deca or var aid in any fat loss? My next cycle is test/deca/var.
 
Jenetic said:
Regardless, testosterone is testosterone and it very beneficial for fat loss

Testosterone affects fat loss in one of two ways. Just like a car, your fat cells have a series of brakes and accelerators. The parts of a fat cell that accelerate the release of fat are called beta-receptors. The parts of a fat cell that put the brakes on fat loss are known as alpha- receptors.

The distribution of brakes and accelerators on each fat cell is one reason why certain parts of your body shed fat faster than others. Women, for example, often have a hard time losing fat from their hips. That's because the fat cells in that area have a higher ratio of alpha- to beta-receptors.

If a fat cell has more beta-receptors, it will release stored fat more quickly than one with fewer beta-receptors. That's where testosterone appears to help. By increasing the number of beta-receptors, testosterone makes it easier to lose stored fat.

Having said that, you should be gyno free if you are using Aromasin. Water retention is another issue but it should be moderate to minimal with the combination you are planning to use in conjunction with Aromasin. Don't forget, GH will cause you to hold some water as well.

Although EQ is a great drug when dieting, anything above 400 mgs causes me to hold some water. Even at 400 mgs I start to hold a bit. Nothing dramatic though. I prefer to use Primobolan when dieting.

One of my favorite and most effective cycles was Test, Primo, Winstrol and GH. I gained some serious quality muscle while dropping body fat so quickly that it literally felt like I was leaner every day.

That was a really good explanation.
 
Jenetic said:
Regardless, testosterone is testosterone and it very beneficial for fat loss

Testosterone affects fat loss in one of two ways. Just like a car, your fat cells have a series of brakes and accelerators. The parts of a fat cell that accelerate the release of fat are called beta-receptors. The parts of a fat cell that put the brakes on fat loss are known as alpha- receptors.

The distribution of brakes and accelerators on each fat cell is one reason why certain parts of your body shed fat faster than others. Women, for example, often have a hard time losing fat from their hips. That's because the fat cells in that area have a higher ratio of alpha- to beta-receptors.

If a fat cell has more beta-receptors, it will release stored fat more quickly than one with fewer beta-receptors. That's where testosterone appears to help. By increasing the number of beta-receptors, testosterone makes it easier to lose stored fat.

Having said that, you should be gyno free if you are using Aromasin. Water retention is another issue but it should be moderate to minimal with the combination you are planning to use in conjunction with Aromasin. Don't forget, GH will cause you to hold some water as well.

Although EQ is a great drug when dieting, anything above 400 mgs causes me to hold some water. Even at 400 mgs I start to hold a bit. Nothing dramatic though. I prefer to use Primobolan when dieting.

One of my favorite and most effective cycles was Test, Primo, Winstrol and GH. I gained some serious quality muscle while dropping body fat so quickly that it literally felt like I was leaner every day.

Good info. Karma
 
thanks a lot jenetic , you are always helping me bro .

I don't have a problem with EQ ....my past cycle was EQ - 500 mg / week , winny 50 mg EOD , and HGH 2 IU EOD . And I had incredible results at those such low doses ...

Now , I am going deep at 500 mg test / week , 4 IU HGH ED , 50 mg winny ED and 600 mg EQ / week . and of course , aromasin during the whole thing .

Very interesting that thing about the alpha and beta receptors I didn't know TEST would be so good for fat loss . From now on , test will be part of all my cycles.

So , Any test should be ok for a cutting cycle .... isn't it ?


Victor
 
I'm not so sure about Decca but I will give you my thoughts on Anvar.

There are many mechanisms behind the ability of androgens to reduce body fat. One key determinant of the amount of adipose tissue reduced is that particular androgen's ability to bind to the Androgen Receptor. Androgen Receptors are not only found in muscle, but they are present in adipose tissue as well.

The higher the density of Androgen Receptors, the more that lipid uptake is inhibited. Also, androgens that bind avidly to the Androgen Receptor cause an increase or upregulation of Androgen Recptors in fat cells. It seems that the greater the androgen binds to the Androgen Receptor, the more upregulation of Androgen Receptors in fat cells occur. Technically, this should lead to a significant reduction in subcutaneous fat.

In regards to Anavar, One study showed that oxandrolone induced an increase in Androgen Receptor expression in muscle. If you consider the information previously mentioned, it would makes sense that oxandrolone would be potent at reducing adipose tissue. Assuming that it is increasing Androgen Receptor expression in adipose tissue, this would fit perfectly in to the idea that a strong binding to the Androgen Receptor induces upregulation of the Androgen Receptor content in adipose tissue and thus leads to fat burning effects.

Technically, this would apply to androgens like Winstrol, Trenbolone, Masteron ect...
 
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Holy crap that confused the hell out of me lol...but good post karma for ya
test/deca/var should be a good cycle :) really looking forward to that


Jenetic said:
I'm not so sure about Decca but I will give you my thoughts on Anvar.

There are many mechanisms behind the ability of androgens to reduce body fat. One key determinant of the amount of adipose tissue reduced is that particular androgen's ability to bind to the Androgen Receptor. Androgen Receptors are not only found in muscle, but they are present in adipose tissue as well.

The higher the density of Androgen Receptors, the more that lipid uptake is inhibited. Also, androgens that bind avidly to the Androgen Receptor cause an increase or upregulation of Androgen Recptors in fat cells. It seems that the greater the androgen binds to the Androgen Receptor, the more upregulation of Androgen Receptors in fat cells occur. Technically, this should lead to a significant reduction in subcutaneous fat.

In regards to Anavar, One study showed that oxandrolone induced an increase in Androgen Receptor expression in muscle. If you consider the information previously mentioned, it would makes sense that oxandrolone would be potent at reducing adipose tissue. Assuming that it is increasing Androgen Receptor expression in adipose tissue, this would fit perfectly in to the idea that a strong binding to the Androgen Receptor induces upregulation of the Androgen Receptor content in adipose tissue and thus leads to fat burning effects.

Technically, this would apply to androgens like Winstrol, Trenbolone, Masteron ect...
 
Jenetic said:
Regardless, testosterone is testosterone and it very beneficial for fat loss


One of my favorite and most effective cycles was Test, Primo, Winstrol and GH. I gained some serious quality muscle while dropping body fat so quickly that it literally felt like I was leaner every day.

Tempting... I am currently on Primo & Var, and liking it. But next time I may try stacking Primo & Sust...

By the way, Jenetic, which doses of Primo, Sust and Winny did you use?
 
confid12000 said:
Tempting... I am currently on Primo & Var, and liking it. But next time I may try stacking Primo & Sust...

By the way, Jenetic, which doses of Primo, Sust and Winny did you use?

500 mgs Sustanon per week
100 mgs Primobolan EOD
50 mgs Winstrol EOD
6 iu's GH ED
50 mcg T3 ED
 
VictorBR said:
damn this thing , I bought some test prop ( lots of it indeed ) for my cutting cycle and now everyone is saying it is fake . damn :evil:

Well , my cycle was going to be test prop , HGH , eq and winny , aromasin. ( I was going to run 500 mg / week of test prop )

NOw , I can get sust 250 here on the pharm with a prescription so it is 100 % real , I am thinking in switching from prop to sust .

I will be running 12.5 mg aromasin EOD during my cycle , do you guy think I should be concerned with water retention and gyno ? Does sust usually retains water ? Or is it ok for a cutting cycle ? Keep in mind I will be using aromasin during my whole cycle .

Victor

I see nothing wrong in useing Prop for a cutting cycle. Sust 250 takes to long to kick in overall. Test base would be even better for a cutting cycle.
 
supervegitto said:
Holy crap that confused the hell out of me lol...but good post karma for ya
test/deca/var should be a good cycle :) really looking forward to that

Key Points:

1. Androgens have the ability to reduce body fat.

2. Androgen Receptors (AR) are present in body fat.

3. The higher the density of AR , the more that lipid uptake is inhibited.

4. Androgens that bind avidly to the AR cause an increase or upregulation
of AR in fat cells.

5. The greater the androgen binds to the AR, the more upregulation of AR in
fat cells occur which should result in significant fat loss.

6. It is possible that Anavar increases AR expression.

Hypothesis:

Assuming that it is increasing Androgen Receptor expression in fat tissue, this would fit perfectly in to the idea that a strong binding to the Androgen Receptor induces upregulation of the Androgen Receptor content in adipose tissue and thus leads to fat burning effects.

Basically, it is allowing the AR to be more productive/efficient which should result in more fat loss.

Hope that helps
 
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