sust 250 cycle

[dsgca]

I am 6' 5" 250 and finished an 8 week cycle of sust 6 weeks ago. I had pretty good gains for a beginner. Looking for suggestions for round 2. How long should I wait and what can I do to minimize the loss on this round. Thanks in advance!!

 

[flickenu]

What did your cycle look like? How much mass did you put on? What was your diet like?


To minimize gains lost you need to do clomid therapy. I hope you know that is. How long ago did you finish this cycle?

 

[dsgca]

Thanks for the reply. I did 8 weeks of 250....I was told to start light. My body weight only gained 5lbs or so, but I dropped some fat and gained decent mass/definition. I finished 6 weeks ago. Diet was high protein....moderate carb/fat. I am allready noticing losses....am I training too hard in the off cycle?? I wish I had gotten on clomid/hcg, but was told that I would not need it with such a low dose. What should be my next step?? Thanks again!@!

 

[flickenu]

Whoever told you that you didn't need clomid was wrong. Even on the mildest cycles you should use clomid therapy, unless you are bridging.

What are you looking to gain in your next cycle? Bulk or cut up?

 

[reconnect]

what's with the angry smiley

 

[flickenu]

what's with the angry smiley

lol, he needs to turn that frown upside down.

 

[neo1605]

No clomid = Loss of muscle

 

[Michael Jones]

I'm starting a cycle of sust. 250 in a week or so, or when my gear gets here. Clomid is a must as I have been told by alot of the bros. here.

 

[dsgca]

Probably mostly to cut up, but I could deficately use some more mass. I just want to make sure that I am fully ready before I start so that I don't go through this again. I wish I had found this site months ago! How long do you usually wait between cycles??

 

[Alpine]

Time on = Time off

 

[bigwillster]

I've been told wait as long as you were on. If you did an 8 week cycle then wait a few more weeks. Do you have clomid and nolva for this cycle. Make sure you do. Getting big is cool but try to minimize the side effects and play it safe.

 

[dsgca]

8-10 weeks off is enough?? What do you mena by play it safe with nova/clomid....minimize loss?? or something to do with side affects?? I am thinking of another sust 250 cycle. Maybe a little deca?? Am I in the right direction?? Should I up my dose or ride the same since I had good results on round one?? I want minimal side effects!!

 

[Alpine]

You can use the same dosages or maybe up them a little bit. But time on should equal time off. Use clomid to help keep gains postcycle and use nolvadex to keep from getting gyno......Maximizing gains and minimizing side effects.

 

[bigwillster]

Can you specify how much Sust 250 per week you plan on using?
Nolva is to avoid bitch titties. Some use it throughout the whole cycle and other use it only if they see signs of bitch titties(itching or swelling around the nipple). They say Nolva may hinder some gains. Clomid is to bring your testoterone levels up to par.

 

[wrj]

Try this:

wk 1-4 dbol 25mg ed
wk1-8 sust 500mg/wk
wk1-8 deca 300mg/wk
While your on, if you notice ichy or sensitive nipples take 10mg Nolvadex per day. Three weeks after your last shot of deca/test start takin clomid. 100mg for one week then 75 mg for another and then 50mg for another.

Good luck, and btw knowledge is key!

WRJ

Note: take milk thistle, multi vitamin and antioxidant while on your cycle. This should be a given.

 

[mlomker]

I like WRJ's cycle (doing that one right now). I'm 175 lbs though! In my opinion you are way too big of a guy to bother with such a small cycle.

If you prefer more gradual gains then look into an EQ/Winny cycle and don't bother with test on the next one.

 

[dsgca]

Thanks for all the replies. I was thining of something like you recommended wrj. Should I use the same amount, 500/300 all the way through or ramp up and down?? What is the dbol for?? I am hoping to get going no later than 11/15 if I get my gear lined up by then. Is clomid enouhg for post cycle or should I get HCG/pregnyl as well??

 

[SNAKE BITE]

yes use the same amount throughout the cycle. the dbol will start working right away because the test wont kick in for about 4 weeks. Only thing i would change is clomid 3 weeks after your last shot at:
300mg day 1
100mg day 2-6
50mg day 7-14
50mg every other day 15-21

 

[manny78]

Try this:

wk 1-4 dbol 25mg ed
wk1-8 sust 500mg/wk
wk1-8 deca 300mg/wk
While your on, if you notice ichy or sensitive nipples take 10mg Nolvadex per day. Three weeks after your last shot of deca/test start takin clomid. 100mg for one week then 75 mg for another and then 50mg for another.

Good luck, and btw knowledge is key!

WRJ

Note: take milk thistle, multi vitamin and antioxidant while on your cycle. This should be a given.

Sustanon and Deca for 10 weeks. Run some arimidex 0.25 to 0.5 ED for E Gyno. Winny for the last 4 weeks 50 mg ED.

 

[juslog]

??

yes use the same amount throughout the cycle. the dbol will start working right away because the test wont kick in for about 4 weeks. Only thing i would change is clomid 3 weeks after your last shot at:
300mg day 1
100mg day 2-6
50mg day 7-14
50mg every other day 15-21

which is better hcg or clomid or do i need both to keep as much as possible??

 

[SNAKE BITE]

use clomid.

 

[Michael Jones]

Alot of great info guys.

 

[PARABOLAN]

try this:
week#1-10:600 mg of test (cyp or enan)
week#1-10:400 mg of equipoise
week#1-5: 35 mg of d-ball ed