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Supplement for onseting diabetes type II ?

lanky said:
although i agree there may be some types of supplements that can help with controling hypergycemia,,he needs to speak with his physician regarding what is going to be done about his medical condition...after a while depending on how young a patient is when developing type II diabetes it will/can eventually develop into insulin dependant diabetes...when diabetes is managed well based off of proper diet, medication and normal blood sugar levels there is a low risk of developing circulation, cardiovascular, vision problems, erectile dysfunction etc...(insert diabetic complication here)..please talk to your doctor..


Agree fully, diabetes ends up leading to a PLETHORA of complications, including neurolgical (Periph neuropathy as well as all Lanky has stated). Circulation leads to amputation in severe cases. Both type 1 and 2 are very serious and problematic and should be treated as such, dont rely on "supplements" for a second.....i dont care how good they are...some things need medical treatment (and in this case consistant checkups and supervision)......if you had a systemic fungal infection with heart involvment would you use "supplements" or ampho-B? If you want to live, ampho-B even though its the nastiest drug out there or one of them.

You NEED to see an endo about this.
Lanky knows what hes talking about, trust me, i know 8-D
 
k, thanks for your answers. I am offcourse going to the doctor and all that. But he doesnt know shit about r-ala (theres few, if any, docs in Norway that knows about stuff like that I think). That's why it's always good to check with you guys for tips :)
 
on a lighter note there's about to be available an inhalable insulin so don't fear the insulin injections :)
 
bigrand said:
Both type 1 and 2 are very serious and problematic and should be treated as such, dont rely on "supplements" for a second.....i dont care how good they are...some things need medical treatment


if it were patentable, R- lipoic would have been a prescription drug. it is more effective than metformin and most of the new ppar-gamma (glizatone's) agonists. agree that bloodwork should be done, however disagree that "traditional" drugs treatment is more effective and certainly disagree that they are as healthy for the user. Insulin does not treat type II diabetes it just treats the symptoms, it does nothing to halt the underlying disease if anything it contributes to its progression.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
if it were patentable, R- lipoic would have been a prescription drug. it is more effective than metformin and most of the new ppar-gamma (glizatone's) agonists. agree that bloodwork should be done, however disagree that "traditional" drugs treatment is more effective and certainly disagree that they are as healthy for the user. Insulin does not treat type II diabetes it just treats the symptoms, it does nothing to halt the underlying disease if anything it contributes to its progression.

Im not saying that supplements dont work or cant help (i have read a good deal on ALA and its affects), but it sounded at first as if he wanted to use supps as the staple and not be seen by a MD consistantly. Diabetes, both types, are diseases that need to be monitered and treated like diseases and you dont treat didseases with just supplements.....use supplements as an adjuvant. I personally dont like metformin (terrible shits) and agree ALA is good for his case, but blood work and monitoring by an endo is needed.

Yes, type 1 is the insulin dependant one, where pancreatic islet cells dont secrete insulin (its an AI disease where the body kills those cells)...so insulin, spray or not, isnt needed in this case.

Ive heard some people (chiro student) say that you shouldnt get vaccines and all this other shit, like medicine is bad and you dont need to see doctors, just chiros and holistic cleansing fuckers and stuff like that.... i about slapped him, and i hate people who avoid the doctors when they are ill....its just dumb.....wasnt sure if this guy was wanting to avoid meds and an endo....glad hes not.

Medical intervention is needed in many cases including this one, but can deff be helped by specific supps such as your fave ALA Mac! 8-)
 
bigrand said:
I personally dont like metformin (terrible shits) and agree ALA is good for his case, but blood work and monitoring by an endo is needed.

Yes, type 1 is the insulin dependant one, where pancreatic islet cells dont secrete insulin (its an AI disease where the body kills those cells)...so insulin, spray or not, isnt needed in this case.

agree

agree (use of r-ala with type I's is also a trickier proposition as it requires closer glucose monitoring and modulation of insulin intake- though good in cases where there are adipose issues as well- so that insulin doses can be reduced)
 
macro/ulter:
Just out of curiosity, what dose of glucorellr/insulow would you recommend prior to a meal that consists of, say, 30g carbs (from food on the lower scale of the GI list).
 
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