Superdrol for 1st cycle?

[shoestring]

One thing I forgot to add is that if you decide to use sd, at 160lbs I would not use any more than 20mg ed. A first cycle would look like this; week 1 @ 10mg & weeks 2-3 @ 20 mg. In fact, at 160 lbs you may not even need to go above 10mg on your first cycle. Good luck..

 

[shoestring]

I like SD for the fact it is a safer Dbol and does well with priming the body for a test cycle. Use SD or PP in the place of Dbol makes for a good cycle.

I think you need to say that sd may be safer than dbol. Or seems to be safer. We just don't know for sure. And we know even less about pp. These new compounds just don't have a long track record. It will be interesting to see how long sd is stays around UG after it is no longer availible otc. I think a lot of bros like it.

 

[pdaddy]

From what I have heard sd would be a good first cycle if you're looking to ease into the game so to speak. It would be a good way to see how you react to it. Good information Hankes, you have def. done your research. I do agree w/ showstring as well though in regards to not really knowing long term effects of this compound due to it still being so new and little studies done on it. My .02

 

[hankes64]

Yes, I do agree with you guys. All my research comes from bloodwork 4 weeks after PCT and then again a few months later (some lab rats on AM). It was typical to see your lipid and test levels recover around 3 months after the cycle. In some subjects this may be dangerous (to keep the levels this low for that amount of time) due to some pre-existing problems. Its a new compound and needs to be studied definately but from what I have gathered, it SEEMS to be safer than Dbol.

 

[JayCT]

Thanks to those with civil replies, another forum yielded far too many trolls (omg you noob wtf you'll kill your liver dumbass eat more!!!!!one)...

Hankes, I appreciate the shared knowlege, I will PM you after I have finished some further research on the PCT you advised.

My main concern is the liver damage. I do not drink at all, haven't had alcohol in the liver for 2 years, so I consider that a plus.

I am also considering having bloodwork done pre-cycle and then again post or during. Even though I am lean and eat healthy, I am aware that people are predisposed to different levels of high-density lipoprotiens. I want to my sure my HDL levels stay high enough, and my LDL levels are kept at a safe low.

I am aware that my natural potential has not yet been achieved. Please note that I am not anxious to jump into this, I am more so planning far in advance. I currently document my workouts and diet. I am currently upping my caloric intake with cytogainer, hopefully to 4k+/day. In addition to the kcal increase, I am going to start increasing the weight and lowering my reps. I traditonally enjoy body-weight training such as pullups/dips/pushups and moderate weight for 10 rep sets.

Besides the liver concern, I have read that some have experience lethargy, feeling tired with effects compared to a hangover. This worries me because feeling crappy for 3 weeks, or longer if it carries onto PCT is not worth it to me. I live a healthy lifestyle to look my best, yet also to feel great every day.

I am trying to pack on pounds before I start a cycle. A friend at my gym (who is an identical body type) just started a SD cycle and is reporting rave results. This said friend has not done his research and I am not sure if he has purchased supplements for PCT. I need to make a note of asking him next time I see him, just out of concern for his health. I do want to put muscle on naturally, yet also want to try a SD cycle just to see how my body reacts to it, hoping it can help me pack on that extra 10lbs of lean mass in certain places (shoulders) that will really help my compound movements and help me progress naturally after PCT is finished.

keep the comments coming, even if you think I should -not- do this cycle. I am open to all suggestions.

I have attempted to attach a picture to give people an idea of my body type and why I am looking for some help in packing on some mass.

thanks, Jay

 

[hankes64]

You should be fine liver wise, just use NAC ED on cycle and PCT. Your liver is very quickly regenerated after atrophy, matter of fact its the only organ that regens this fast. You will be fine, you wont get jaundice or anything. Alcohol causes more damage than SD will and most likely even Dbol will cause. As long as you take the proper precautions for Lipid levels, you will also be fine, it will even out and return to normal in about 12 weeks. Bloodwork before cycle and and again after PCT is suggestion and wise.