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Guys what exactly is super clen. Cant find info on the web about it. Whats the difference btwn clen and superclen. Please enlighten me
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MuSuLPhReAk
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Superclen is made by IP...it is a mixture of clen and keto. Keto helps put on some good weight and makes u sleep.
badgermilk
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Superclen=0.2mg clenbuterol + 5mg ketotifen
Regular Clen has no Ketotifen.
Description: Is available in 10 - 20 mcg tablets or in the .016 mg/gram Ventapulmin Vet variety. Clenbuterol is known as a sympathomimetic. These hormones are taken to mimic adrenaline and noradrenaline in the human body. Clenbuterol is a selective beta-2 agonist that is used to stimulate the beta-receptors in fat and muscle tissue in the body. Clenbuterol exhibits most of its effects on the stimulation of both type 2 and 3 beta-receptors
Humans have either very little or no beta-3 receptors, so there is no chance of an anabolic effect.
It's been said that ketotifen keeps the beta-2 receptors active, so that you can stay on Clen with no break.
I do recommend researching this yourself and not taking my word or anyone else's in the matter.
For anyone who is concerned, no I didn't type this up myself, I got it from a profile!
Regular Clen has no Ketotifen.
Description: Is available in 10 - 20 mcg tablets or in the .016 mg/gram Ventapulmin Vet variety. Clenbuterol is known as a sympathomimetic. These hormones are taken to mimic adrenaline and noradrenaline in the human body. Clenbuterol is a selective beta-2 agonist that is used to stimulate the beta-receptors in fat and muscle tissue in the body. Clenbuterol exhibits most of its effects on the stimulation of both type 2 and 3 beta-receptors
Humans have either very little or no beta-3 receptors, so there is no chance of an anabolic effect.
It's been said that ketotifen keeps the beta-2 receptors active, so that you can stay on Clen with no break.
I do recommend researching this yourself and not taking my word or anyone else's in the matter.
For anyone who is concerned, no I didn't type this up myself, I got it from a profile!
windows250279
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Super clen
So i understand superclen is no good for stripping fat then?
So i understand superclen is no good for stripping fat then?
badgermilk
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I have used and still have superclen.
This stuff in my opinion is kick-ass!
you need to split the tabs up into quarters and there tiny as it is. They give me major shakes if I take half a tab and I sweat like a pig because of the elevated temp it gives you.
They have worked very well for me, but there are plenty of people on the boards that have had bad experiences with and or just know what they have heard.
This stuff in my opinion is kick-ass!
you need to split the tabs up into quarters and there tiny as it is. They give me major shakes if I take half a tab and I sweat like a pig because of the elevated temp it gives you.
They have worked very well for me, but there are plenty of people on the boards that have had bad experiences with and or just know what they have heard.
windows250279
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Super clen
It kicks ass badger!
But in what way mate?
It kicks ass badger!
But in what way mate?
badgermilk
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I am 248lbs with abs...
I like it!
I like it!
badgermilk
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I would love to see the email or post that IP stated that it is used for bulking! I think a lot of us would...
Unless of course you spoke with him yourself...Audio8?
Please do not reply without the proof!
Thank You...
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Unless of course you spoke with him yourself...Audio8?
Please do not reply without the proof!
Thank You...
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badgermilk said:
you want proof? Well here it is:
"super clen is not for fat loss its to gain mass ! ketotifen is given to aids patient to bulk them up not to slim them down .. it makes you eat and sleep thats how convicts bulk up without steroids .. ketotifen is very expensive drug .. if you dont want it i got normal 0.2mg clen = 10 normal tabs ..this way i dont have to waste so much money /// i can not stand superclen either but its what GURUs asked me to make ///it dosed it down but still it equalls 5 ketotifen tab and 10 normal tabs in one tab .. keto tabs sold for $1 in mex for 1mg .. normal clen only work only for a while after that its downgraded this stuff are good as long as you can stand it .."
Happy now?
badgermilk
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Audio8 I don't see proof that IP stated this. It contradicts everything I have ever read about Clen whether it be regular or superclen on any profile. I'm not bashing, I'm just interested in this new info about clen...is all.
If you don't mind sharing...tell us where you got that snipit?
Oh and I controlled the weight room at a State Prison for 3 years and inmates use Steroids to bulk up not Ketotifen!
If you don't mind sharing...tell us where you got that snipit?
Oh and I controlled the weight room at a State Prison for 3 years and inmates use Steroids to bulk up not Ketotifen!
Thanks mitch.
Badger,
That snipit is from a thread over at triedia.com. He regularly posts there. I would post a link to it, but it's not in the archives anymore, as it was a very old post.
Oh, and it's not exactly common knowledge, which is why you've never heard of inmates using it for that.
Badger,
That snipit is from a thread over at triedia.com. He regularly posts there. I would post a link to it, but it's not in the archives anymore, as it was a very old post.
Oh, and it's not exactly common knowledge, which is why you've never heard of inmates using it for that.
Inferior Products himself stated on tri that it was for bulking. I have been a mod on tri since day one and indeed saw the post. The keto is for wasting diseases because it sucked as an antihistamine but increased appetite. I used it and ate like a horse, slept like a baby, and didn't really gain much fat. I was under the imporession that it was for cutting when i used it to and when Inferior Products posted that i was less than amused... much like when i read the hard copy results of his anavar.
windows250279
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Super clen
Thanks guys,
Your answers were very nice , and i am sorry if i caused a bitch fight but was quite funny to read.
Well train hard everyone!!!
Thanks guys,
Your answers were very nice , and i am sorry if i caused a bitch fight but was quite funny to read.
Well train hard everyone!!!
badgermilk
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Just For The Record
The profile I posted was for regular clen with no Ketotifen.
There is no profile that I know of for this superclen. If anyone has found one please post. The responses were very interesting.
The profile I posted was for regular clen with no Ketotifen.
There is no profile that I know of for this superclen. If anyone has found one please post. The responses were very interesting.
Here is a profile on Ketotifen.
What Is It?
Ketotifen is very safe antihistamine (like Seldane or Benadryl) used extensively in Europe to treat bronchial asthma and allergies. It is also being studied as a treatment for colitis. The PWA Health Group is importing ketotifen because of preliminary reports that it lowers elevated levels of TNF-alpha, and can help PWAs gain weight.
The Theory Behind Ketotifen
German researchers have published data showing that ketotifen lowers tnf-alpha in the test tube. TNF-alpha is a naturally occuring protein that is often highly elevated in people with HIV and may be a primary part of HIV disease. It can turn on latent HIV, increasing the production of new virus; as well as cause generalized inflammation and AIDS related weight loss. But in addition to reducing TNF-alpha, ketotifen may help people gain weight in other ways. When used for asthma, weight gain and an increase in appetite were among the most frequent side effects. Ketotifen also protects the cells in the stomach, small intestine and perhaps the rest of the gut from a number of toxins. It is also being studied as a way to treat inflammatory bowel disease/colitis which has much in common with HIV-related gut problems. A number of case studies suggest that ketotifen may be helpful treating skin problems such as acne. Ketotifen also reduces edema (swelling and puffiness caused by water retention) around sores.
Ketotifen Studies in PWAs
Rather than focusing on ketotifen's TNF reduction as a means of slowing down HIV, the pragmatic Germans wondered what the drug might do for wasting. They published data from two small pilot studies in PWAs at last year's AIDS conference. One study used ketotifen in combination with oxymethadone, a steroid like Megace that helps people gain weight, so it is hard to gauge what effect ketotifen had (the study notes a 14% reduction in TNF-alpha levels and weight gains of 11-12 pounds in less than four weeks). A larger placebo controlled study of this combination is underway. The other study used ketotifen by itself in eight patients with elevated TNF-alpha, (but no wasting). Taking ketotifen for 12 weeks, these patients gained an average of six pounds, had increases in their body cell mass and reductions in their TNF-alpha levels.
Side Effects and Toxicity
Ketotifen is virtually non-toxic (although it is not advised for patients with epilepsy). People who took twenty times the recommended dose (in suicide attempts) suffered no serious consequences (other than embarrassment). Its primary side effects seem to be temporary drowsiness, dry mouth,(and other mucuos membranes) appetite stimulation and weight gain.
Ketotifen in Kids
Ketotifen is one of the rare drugs that has been extensively used and shown to be safe in children (above six months old). One study was in 107 children between six months and three years old with asthma. Children under 1 year were given .5 mg twice daily, the older children got 1 mg twice daily. Not only did the kid's asthma improve, they gained weight too.
Dosing
No studies have been done to find the most effective dose for weight gain in PWAs. However, the German researchers are using 1 mg, four times a day for a total of 4 mg a day. However, much higher doses have been shown to be quite safe.
What Is It?
Ketotifen is very safe antihistamine (like Seldane or Benadryl) used extensively in Europe to treat bronchial asthma and allergies. It is also being studied as a treatment for colitis. The PWA Health Group is importing ketotifen because of preliminary reports that it lowers elevated levels of TNF-alpha, and can help PWAs gain weight.
The Theory Behind Ketotifen
German researchers have published data showing that ketotifen lowers tnf-alpha in the test tube. TNF-alpha is a naturally occuring protein that is often highly elevated in people with HIV and may be a primary part of HIV disease. It can turn on latent HIV, increasing the production of new virus; as well as cause generalized inflammation and AIDS related weight loss. But in addition to reducing TNF-alpha, ketotifen may help people gain weight in other ways. When used for asthma, weight gain and an increase in appetite were among the most frequent side effects. Ketotifen also protects the cells in the stomach, small intestine and perhaps the rest of the gut from a number of toxins. It is also being studied as a way to treat inflammatory bowel disease/colitis which has much in common with HIV-related gut problems. A number of case studies suggest that ketotifen may be helpful treating skin problems such as acne. Ketotifen also reduces edema (swelling and puffiness caused by water retention) around sores.
Ketotifen Studies in PWAs
Rather than focusing on ketotifen's TNF reduction as a means of slowing down HIV, the pragmatic Germans wondered what the drug might do for wasting. They published data from two small pilot studies in PWAs at last year's AIDS conference. One study used ketotifen in combination with oxymethadone, a steroid like Megace that helps people gain weight, so it is hard to gauge what effect ketotifen had (the study notes a 14% reduction in TNF-alpha levels and weight gains of 11-12 pounds in less than four weeks). A larger placebo controlled study of this combination is underway. The other study used ketotifen by itself in eight patients with elevated TNF-alpha, (but no wasting). Taking ketotifen for 12 weeks, these patients gained an average of six pounds, had increases in their body cell mass and reductions in their TNF-alpha levels.
Side Effects and Toxicity
Ketotifen is virtually non-toxic (although it is not advised for patients with epilepsy). People who took twenty times the recommended dose (in suicide attempts) suffered no serious consequences (other than embarrassment). Its primary side effects seem to be temporary drowsiness, dry mouth,(and other mucuos membranes) appetite stimulation and weight gain.
Ketotifen in Kids
Ketotifen is one of the rare drugs that has been extensively used and shown to be safe in children (above six months old). One study was in 107 children between six months and three years old with asthma. Children under 1 year were given .5 mg twice daily, the older children got 1 mg twice daily. Not only did the kid's asthma improve, they gained weight too.
Dosing
No studies have been done to find the most effective dose for weight gain in PWAs. However, the German researchers are using 1 mg, four times a day for a total of 4 mg a day. However, much higher doses have been shown to be quite safe.
badgermilk
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Nice Post Audio8......that's some good info!
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