Summer cut cycle

[trt newbie]

Hey guys I'm going to be running tren ace in a few months and was contemplating on running test prop with it the only thing is, is that I'm on trt and when I go back to my trt I don't want the cyp to have to build up in my system do you think I'll be just fine on test e since e and c are pretty interchangeable. Just want to keep the bloat to a minimum. Also do you think mast prop would be helpful and or needed with ace I heard it dries you up a lot more then e. Just trying to save on unnecessary gear. If I do end up running mast p I'll probably only run it the last 5 weeks of a 10 weeks cycle or 6 weeks of a 12 week cycle

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Brudduh! I personally noticed no bloat difference between any of the test esters... Ran tren with e/c/and prop now, my water is always diet related... Like right now for instance, had me some pizza and cookies last night cuz wellllll I'm feelin lean as shit and wanted some goddamn dirty eats! But today I'm 8 pounds heavier my waist is prolly an inch bigger and my abs look nice n soft hahaha worth it but for sure the sodium and carb destruction that caused it... I think you'll be more than good to go with the enanthate and you'd be fine to just start up the cyp again after... Or even just continue the cyp!

Look a lil soft? Bump the tren!
Feel a lil soft? Blast the mast!

Hahaha enjoy homie! I can't wait for my ace to kick in here with my enanthate... Time to beast out on a reaaaaaaal level!!

 

[trt newbie]

Brudduh! I personally noticed no bloat difference between any of the test esters... Ran tren with e/c/and prop now, my water is always diet related... Like right now for instance, had me some pizza and cookies last night cuz wellllll I'm feelin lean as shit and wanted some goddamn dirty eats! But today I'm 8 pounds heavier my waist is prolly an inch bigger and my abs look nice n soft hahaha worth it but for sure the sodium and carb destruction that caused it... I think you'll be more than good to go with the enanthate and you'd be fine to just start up the cyp again after... Or even just continue the cyp!

Look a lil soft? Bump the tren!
Feel a lil soft? Blast the mast!

Hahaha enjoy homie! I can't wait for my ace to kick in here with my enanthate... Time to beast out on a reaaaaaaal level!!

Crazy what one cheat meal can do to you . I went to this wing spot I always went to and was like you know what I'm going to drink a fucking beer too.. Then there's this super bomb cupcake spot across the parking lot that we use to always go to, I was like you know what I'm going all out this meal I'm getting two mini cupcakes too. woke up the next morning like what did I do. But hey man thanks for the advice I'll probably just run e and mix a little c with it .. I'll probably add a little mast at the end too fuck it

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Crazy what one cheat meal can do to you . I went to this wing spot I always went to and was like you know what I'm going to drink a fucking beer too.. Then there's this super bomb cupcake spot across the parking lot that we use to always go to, I was like you know what I'm going all out this meal I'm getting two mini cupcakes too. woke up the next morning like what did I do. But hey man thanks for the advice I'll probably just run e and mix a little c with it .. I'll probably add a little mast at the end too fuck it

Mann seriously!! Hah, I went overboard with it for sure.... But still!

I think it's worse for us dudes who are really strict 95% of the time because our bodies are like wtttffff is this bullshit!?! So short term it affects us a lot worse, but long term we are better off. I've jumped up as much as 6 pounds just from adding extra sauce and a bigger serving of rice because ky bodies so used to my diet and is so balanced! Throwing it off makes huge changes.

Mast will do you good though man, I haven't ran it lean enough to see the real effects so I'm intrigued to see how grainy it will make you look once your already diced!! Keep me updated bruh!

On that note! Time for some glutes and hammies!!! Weeeeo

 

[trt newbie]

Pin day/chest and tri day

 

[trt newbie]

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[trt newbie]

Sir mix a lot lol... Wish that was my name on here to bad you can't change it

 

[polarbear1134]

Crazy what one cheat meal can do to you ��. I went to this wing spot I always went to and was like you know what I'm going to drink a fucking beer too.. Then there's this super bomb cupcake spot across the parking lot that we use to always go to, I was like you know what I'm going all out this meal I'm getting two mini cupcakes too. �� woke up the next morning like what did I do. But hey man thanks for the advice I'll probably just run e and mix a little c with it ��.. I'll probably add a little mast at the end too fuck it

That is what happens when you low carb stave your body. The carbs mix with water and get stored in your muscles. When you carb stave all this comes out and as soon as you eat carbs again they mix with water I think 4 parts water to each part carb and refuel your muscles. This is also why athletes that need muscle performance don't carb stave their muscles. It also is why it's so hard to build muscle when at a very low body fat.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

That is what happens when you low carb stave your body. The carbs mix with water and get stored in your muscles. When you carb stave all this comes out and as soon as you eat carbs again they mix with water I think 4 parts water to each part carb and refuel your muscles. This is also why athletes that need muscle performance don't carb stave their muscles. It also is why it's so hard to build muscle when at a very low body fat.

4:1 is correct, and yes it is much more drastic when carbs are depleted 90% of the time. Sodium plays a major rolle in this scenario too though, I am quite sensitive and even a few hundred mg difference in sodium intake will fluctuate my scale weight.

I have always been under the impression it is much EASIER to build muscle from a low BF%, your body is much more efficient at using nutrients the leaner you are, therefor i do believe clean gains come at a superior rate when at a low compared to mod or high BF%

 

[trt newbie]

4:1 is correct, and yes it is much more drastic when carbs are depleted 90% of the time. Sodium plays a major rolle in this scenario too though, I am quite sensitive and even a few hundred mg difference in sodium intake will fluctuate my scale weight.

I have always been under the impression it is much EASIER to build muscle from a low BF%, your body is much more efficient at using nutrients the leaner you are, therefor i do believe clean gains come at a superior rate when at a low compared to mod or high BF%

Totally agree

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Totally agree

Btw homie, I felt the ace kick in today FIR SHUREEE!!! My skin felt like it was going to tear off my arms my pump was so crazy today... I literally tried take off my hoodie but couldn't do it because it was like stuck to me from sweat/my pump Hahahaha!! I just love high dose tren... It's a wonderful wonderful thing

Stoked for you to join team tren in a major way haha!!

 

[trt newbie]

Btw homie, I felt the ace kick in today FIR SHUREEE!!! My skin felt like it was going to tear off my arms my pump was so crazy today... I literally tried take off my hoodie but couldn't do it because it was like stuck to me from sweat/my pump Hahahaha!! I just love high dose tren... It's a wonderful wonderful thing

Stoked for you to join team tren in a major way haha!!

I know I love this shit too man I can't wait to try ace in a few months I heard it's a little stronger then enenthate. And I'm going to be running it at 600mg as well .. I almost want to up my e a little more but I already don't have enough room in my syring lol and shit get expensive. maybe we'll see. I just wonder if I was running some tren from alpha pharma or something if it would be the same potency as the shit I'm on right now... I just want to start brewing my own shit already. It's just a pain in the ass trying to find a good raw source. Especially ordering something like that for your first time. Then you have to find out melting points and all that shit. Seems like a lot of hassle that will be worth it in the end.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

I know I love this shit too man I can't wait to try ace in a few months I heard it's a little stronger then enenthate. And I'm going to be running it at 600mg as well .. I almost want to up my e a little more but I already don't have enough room in my syring lol and shit get expensive. maybe we'll see. I just wonder if I was running some tren from alpha pharma or something if it would be the same potency as the shit I'm on right now... I just want to start brewing my own shit already. It's just a pain in the ass trying to find a good raw source. Especially ordering something like that for your first time. Then you have to find out melting points and all that shit. Seems like a lot of hassle that will be worth it in the end.

LOL that's too funny man, i ordered 200 syringe w/ tip, and 200 loaders pins.... 3CC cuz I told myself I wouldn't be pinning more than that, now my pins are 3.5 CC so I have to double pin on the test/tren days

Ran the long esters so I DIDNT have to be a pin Cuision anymore Lolol now with the ace added in I'm literally pinning twice as much as I was with the prop/ace alone hahaha Fml

 

[Saiyan7]

LOL that's too funny man, i ordered 200 syringe w/ tip, and 200 loaders pins.... 3CC cuz I told myself I wouldn't be pinning more than that, now my pins are 3.5 CC so I have to double pin on the test/tren days

Ran the long esters so I DIDNT have to be a pin Cuision anymore Lolol now with the ace added in I'm literally pinning twice as much as I was with the prop/ace alone hahaha Fml

Empty your PMs bro.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Empty your PMs bro.

Dam it lol my bad

Done and done

 

[trt newbie]

LOL that's too funny man, i ordered 200 syringe w/ tip, and 200 loaders pins.... 3CC cuz I told myself I wouldn't be pinning more than that, now my pins are 3.5 CC so I have to double pin on the test/tren days

Ran the long esters so I DIDNT have to be a pin Cuision anymore Lolol now with the ace added in I'm literally pinning twice as much as I was with the prop/ace alone hahaha Fml

What was cool about the 3cc syringes I ordered is if you pull the plunger back it basically goes to 4cc's so I fill that bitch up haha... I'm really contemplating on adding the tren ace I have right now but I think I'll ride this one out and wait till my next cycle in a few months . What's you opinions on ace vs with is there a big difference. And ya bro I've been getting some crazy ass pumps in the gym to I don't know if it's the tren or the dbol or both lol but when people come up to you and ask what your taking and saying your getting big as fuck feels good haha. I just hope after this dbol I keep a little of the size and lean out a little more. Do you take ai's?

 

[trt newbie]

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[SwollenMember_18]

What was cool about the 3cc syringes I ordered is if you pull the plunger back it basically goes to 4cc's so I fill that bitch up haha... I'm really contemplating on adding the tren ace I have right now but I think I'll ride this one out and wait till my next cycle in a few months . What's you opinions on ace vs with is there a big difference. And ya bro I've been getting some crazy ass pumps in the gym to I don't know if it's the tren or the dbol or both lol but when people come up to you and ask what your taking and saying your getting big as fuck feels good haha. I just hope after this dbol I keep a little of the size and lean out a little more. Do you take ai's?

Personally all I've noticed different between the 2 esters is my insomnia is wayyyyy worse with them enanthate than the ace. Other than that strength and body comp change has been fairly identical. I'm loving the 2 stacked together though and it's still only day 5 of the ace which means it's got some time to really kick still!!

As for AI, I run Adex on a cut and asin when I bulk just because i find Adex keeps me a bit drier! At 1200 test inwas runnin .5 Ed and now I've dropped my test to 600 I'm runnin .5 eod, will decrease it slowly most likely because when I cruise at 400 test indont even use an AI and I'm fine. Just really wanna get that bone dry look here and I figure a couple Meg's of Adex ain't much of a worry for me right now considering the 1.4 grams of tren I have costs of through my blood hahahaa!