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Stupid fucking trainers.

Lupercal CATS

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I was doing my back day today and I'm resting between sets of rows and this guy comes and starts talking to me asking about my diet and such. We start talking about lifting and asks how many reps I perform. I told him 6 and he went off on me telling me that I needed to be doing 15 to see muscle growth. He then told me that 3500 calories isnt enough to grow because i probably use 2500..... wtf.

STUPID FUCKING TRAINERS!!! KILL THAT SHITTT!
 
I had a trainer tell me I was going to low on my ATF squats. The chick with him said "Well it looks like it is working none the less" Classic!
 
Lupercal CATS said:
I was doing my back day today and I'm resting between sets of rows and this guy comes and starts talking to me asking about my diet and such. We start talking about lifting and asks how many reps I perform. I told him 6 and he went off on me telling me that I needed to be doing 15 to see muscle growth. He then told me that 3500 calories isnt enough to grow because i probably use 2500..... wtf.

STUPID FUCKING TRAINERS!!! KILL THAT SHITTT!

wow, that trainer has a lot of nerve interupting your workout to start critizing you. i mean maybe he/she can just say, "i think your form needs to be improved and this is how you do it....", but telling you that how you are lifting and eating is wrong and taking time away from your workout is just plan absurd.
 
Some trainers are certified through the mail jackasses who were previously unemployed and have never been under a heavy squat or pulled a heavy dead, and just regurgitate whatever nonsense they read in their study packet. They had to pick something, and PT looked better than the private investigator course and it was cheaper than going to school, so now they are an 'expert'.

Some are intelligent enough and mean well enough, but just have never spent any time under the bar. Most certifications are concerned with either doing worthless exercises, or tweaking good exercises and making them worthless, with the idea that it 'prevents injury'. I'll say "I've been squatting ATF since I was 13 years old, I'm now 26 and my knees are fine".....to me that says a lot more about the safety of ATF squats than some dumb article by some douche bag who has never had a bar on their back.

But, yeah, a good deal of PT's out there are douche bags, some aren't though.

At the gym when I am working out I notice a lot of clients comment to their trainer about what I am doing or what I am working, and impressively they usually just respond with 'his goals are different than yours' and I have to give them credit for that.
 
BiggT said:
At the gym when I am working out I notice a lot of clients comment to their trainer about what I am doing or what I am working, and impressively they usually just respond with 'his goals are different than yours' and I have to give them credit for that.

I'm not sure how impressive it might be rather than just wise. I don't know these particular guys but a typical trainer watching someone squat heavy and clean and snatch might think, "Well, I don't know anything about that stuff and he's within ear shot so if I say something wrong I'm going to look dumb in front of my client. In addition, if I irritate him I might have an olympic bar rammed up my ass and sticking out my mouth - that might make me look dumb and make it hard to train clients too." Could be more of a self-interest response rather than wisdom :)
 
Madcow2 said:
I'm not sure how impressive it might be rather than just wise. I don't know these particular guys but a typical trainer watching someone squat heavy and clean and snatch might think, "Well, I don't know anything about that stuff and he's within ear shot so if I say something wrong I'm going to look dumb in front of my client. In addition, if I irritate him I might have an olympic bar rammed up my ass and sticking out my mouth - that might make me look dumb and make it hard to train clients too." Could be more of a self-interest response rather than wisdom :)

This is also a distinct possibility
 
Madcow2 said:
I'm not sure how impressive it might be rather than just wise. I don't know these particular guys but a typical trainer watching someone squat heavy and clean and snatch might think, "Well, I don't know anything about that stuff and he's within ear shot so if I say something wrong I'm going to look dumb in front of my client. In addition, if I irritate him I might have an olympic bar rammed up my ass and sticking out my mouth - that might make me look dumb and make it hard to train clients too." Could be more of a self-interest response rather than wisdom :)

no its actually what you should ALWAYS say. that trainer was keeping the subject on his client and not on other gym members. within earshot its just respectful, just like the trainer would ask people to be respectful within earshot of him and his client. little comments made can be undermining when you don't know the whole story.

the best advice I've had when I first started training was before you go up to someone and start spouting off that they are doing something wrong, ask what the goal of the exercise is.

the guy whose form you try to correct doing the full body tricep pressdowns may very well be training to be the world bicycle pump record holder....

its an extreme example but since each person's goal is different, and alot of times exercises are suited to be more functional these days and less isolation-based, you could put a big size 15 shoe in your mouth coming off like brainy smurf and spouting off some profound gym wisdom...just cause you are the "trainer".
 
I'd never sit well with something like that. Were that me, I would've lost my gym membership that day. ;)
 
Madcow2 said:
I hope you realize I was trying to make a joke.

yeah, but since this is actually the mindset of a number of gymrats(i'm stronger than you so I must know my stuff), then i had to challenge it from a trainer's perspective. a trainer who might say that won't be looked at as a pussy, so to speak, for not immediately putting down the other guy in front of his client. If he can't lift it, so what? if he's a good trainer, he can definitely improve it or at least validate it for the goal, and will be humble and professional in the process.


:chomp:
 
I go to a shit hole gym where there are no personal trainers. Theres hardly any machines there at all. And im glad casue it would only piss me off if some guy came up to me and tried to give me advice without me asking.
Thats another thing I never walk up to a guy and give advice without him asking me too. I dont care if hes gonna rip himself up. Ive had it done to me and didnt like it so i dont so it all.
 
I think the typical bone headed trainer who knows nothing about training IS all too common. I don't mean any disrespect to those who know their stuff. For example, Nate said he trains, and by his posts, he knows what he is talking about. BUT, it just so happens he put his time under the bar and has made progress in himself and he happened to also get certified and make it 'official'.....I think a good trainer like this is a good trainer because of their experience, not some certification course. People can send away for a packet and memorize some shit and get that peice of paper, but I have seen first hand that it doesn't necessarily mean they know anything about training.

I never subscribe to the mindset that if someone is bigger and stronger than another that they know more.....BUT experience does count in my book, and if someone has never proven their methods on themselves, I don't have the same respect for them as I would someone who has practiced what they preached with results......They don't have to be the strongest guy in the world, but these trainers who are either 140lbs or are fat asses don't really represent themselves well.

Also, regardless of anything, when I see a trainer say squatting ATF is 'bad for your knees' or deadlifting is 'dangerous' or when I see a trainer put someone on a Smith Machine because it is 'safer', and this trainer obviously has never squatted a weight that was heavy for THEM or deadlifted a weight that was heavy for THEM, I will go ahead and form the opinion that they are an asshole.

A person doesn't have to move what I consider to be big weights to earn my respect, but they have to move weights that are big for THEM......I am more impressed with the guy busting his nuts to squat 200lbs for 5 ass to the floor reps than I am with some asswipe moving a half an inch with 500lbs...Now not everybody's goals are centered to lifting heavy weights, but I feel anybody in the gym for whatever reason should be there to better themselves and work hard at whatever they do......Also, I think it is fair enough to feel that somebody is an asshole when they criticize squats as dangerous when they have never strained under a squat bar in their life.
 
99% of trainers are looking for the "sale" and that's it...I had a tiny weakling come up to me and ask me if I had any whey and if not would I like to try some of theirs, I just looked at him for a second they continued my workout what a FUCKSTICK!!!
 
Bigredcanecorso said:
99% of trainers are looking for the "sale" and that's it!

Dead on here^^^.

I had a trainer come up to me and I was like "Oh man, this dude is gonna be like WTF are you doing", but I was wrong. The trainer says that I am looking a lot bigger and I should keep doing what I am doing cus its working. Plus, usuallu he just comes up to people to try and sell them sessions, but I dont need it cus what I am doing is working.
 
Bigredcanecorso said:
99% of trainers are looking for the "sale" and that's it...I had a tiny weakling come up to me and ask me if I had any whey and if not would I like to try some of theirs, I just looked at him for a second they continued my workout what a FUCKSTICK!!!

training is a profession...not a community service. you can love what you do, but the bottom line is that you rely on people's continued service to keep food on the table. The skinny trainers are the one that don't ask for the business...
 
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