strongman events only will it work

[OreoPL]

i am wondering if one was to train events only would they get bigger and stronger. i would perodize the training like my gym training but do events only. or are the events like powerlifting, u know u dont bench to raise your bench and so on. i have found that in the past 3 weeks i have not been to gym but only doing events, and i have made progress every week so it gave me this idea so i decided i would ask for opinoins?

 

[t3c]

hey man...

I'm not sure but this is how I see it:

you do your gym work so you can be strong at the events.

you do the events to be good at the events

 

[b fold the truth]

I agree with t3c.

Doing the events will bring up your gym strength though. It is strange. The events put your body in strange places and will make you more athletic. It will also teach your mind what it is like to see the white horse...and return.

B True

 

[dood]

I agree. Phil Pfister doesn't work out in the gym(he might now). He is very athletic but lacks the brute strength of other strongmen. Geoff Capes didn't wotk out in the gym but did ebents. It worked great for him. But if he never worked out I think he would have still been srong enough to compete with the top people. His genetics were amazing. He was 6' 7" in the high 300's yet extremely fast and agile. Plus had great gym strength unlike Phil.

 

[b fold the truth]

I agree. Phil Pfister doesn't work out in the gym(he might now). He is very athletic but lacks the brute strength of other strongmen. Geoff Capes didn't wotk out in the gym but did ebents. It worked great for him. But if he never worked out I think he would have still been srong enough to compete with the top people. His genetics were amazing. He was 6' 7" in the high 300's yet extremely fast and agile. Plus had great gym strength unlike Phil.

Phil has been doing a lot of heavy gym training for over a year now...

His basic training philosophy was the 75% rule. He used 75% of the contest weight with about 75% intensity...but for 2-4 sets. He did 2-3 events per day....5-6 days per week.

Gym strength isn't gonna give you a lot when it comes to events. It is like another sport. Just because you are tall doesn't mean that you are going to be good at basketball even though it will help. Just because you are strong or big doesn't mean that you can play football...just that it will help. Just because you are strong doesn't mean that you are going to be good at Strongman.

B True

 

[Lord_Suston]

boy did I find that out the hard way.....

 

[Exodus]

boy did I find that out the hard way.....

lol...... we all did. but it seems so natural for folks like B fold, you and Iron Lion

X

 

[queena_82]

Training for events does help progress but I think you do need the gym too Like T3C said you go to the gym to get strong at the events. I would definately take B Fold's advice he knows what he's talking about. He does do gym work too and works out before we train on Sundays. I've only been doing strong man for about 3 weeks and I see changs with me so I know what your talking bout but then again we do gym work 2-3 times durring the week too. Like I said, listen to B fold, hes a pro (literally)

 

[OfWolfandMan]

I always figured that if I did do all events,I would probably end up over training.Almost all of the events,if not all of the events,tax your total body,so you cant really split the events up enough into low body,and upper body to make a decent all events workout week

 

[benchmonster]

Can you get big and strong doing just events?

Hmm, well, I wonder what the strong men back in the Greek and Roman days were doing? Were they doing supersets of supinated biceps curls with the pec deck?

Or were they out in the field picking up heavy, oddly shaped rocks, and wrestling with one another, swinging swords and spears around. Maybe swinging a hammer or carrying a log on occasion?

Hard physical labor will make you stronger. And doing odd lifts will make you way more athletic than doing standard gym exercises.

Almost anything that is physically taxing is going to make you stronger. Hauling hay, building fence, working cows, cutting wood, swinging a hammer and turning a wrench was all the lifting I did as a kid, and the first time I ever walked into a gym, I was able to bench my bodyweight for reps, and was able to squat almost double bodyweight for reps.

You take a guy who works as a logger, or does any type of heavy construction type work, and he is very likely going to be quite strong whether he goes to the gym or not.

Now, are you going to turn into Ronnie Coleman? No. But you can def. get quite big and strong without ever seeing the inside of a weightroom. People have been doing it for centuries.

B.

 

[Zander1983]

Great post, benchmonster. Sounds like you had a pretty good base

 

[slinky]

I see the discussion going towards this particular question:

"What can I do in my training that will provide carry over to strongman?"

Correct?

I see Oly-lifting (cleans would be helpful in tire flipping, for example), strong compounds (bench, deads, squats) and conditioning work. Besides sport specificity type training (event work).

Basically, I look at strongman training this way: trying to improve my performance. ANYTHING that will improve my performance, I will train. Be it strength, speed, explosiveness.

BUT I don't believe you can do it ALL in one week. Which is why I train in weekly cycles; each week concentrates on a key area of performance. And I recently read that Juoko Ahola does the same thing. He sets one week aside for event training and one week for weights.

 

[t3c]

benchmonster

I was thinking that too...

I asked a guy at clints contest who is pretty much undefeated as a 200lber what he does for a living and he does some sort of manual labor

most of the best deadlifters (lb for lb) from those weird countries just chop and lift trees all day long

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Manual labor. That would be the only reason I can think of that helped me on saturday. I have been doing grunt work my whole life!


and

Maybe some of that food I ate at Ryans.

 

[t3c]

hammer...if there was a buffet as good as ryans around here...i would be 300lbs man

that food was SO good...seriously

old country is nothing compared to it

 

[NWinters]

The only think I like about Old Country is the milk machine.....mmmmmmmm I love milk!!!!!!

 

[Exodus]

I asked a guy at clints contest who is pretty much undefeated as a 200lber what he does for a living and he does some sort of manual labor

most of the best deadlifters (lb for lb) from those weird countries just chop and lift trees all day long

your talking about brad pitt........... and thats exactly what he does. hes a logger............... now see if you can figure out why he's so good at strongman.

X

 

[t3c]

ah..makes sense

i wonder what he deadlifts...anyone know?

 

[Exodus]

ah..makes sense

i wonder what he deadlifts...anyone know?

id be interested to know as well............... Bfold might know???

X

 

[b fold the truth]

I think Brad can pull around 500 maybe...not sure.

He is an Arborist...not a logger

The 58 year old man who kept moving around the duck walk implement and picking up the weights on the Hercules Hold...is an Arborist too

B True

 

[Exodus]

I think Brad can pull around 500 maybe...not sure.

He is an Arborist...not a logger

The 58 year old man who kept moving around the duck walk implement and picking up the weights on the Hercules Hold...is an Arborist too

B True

gotcha.........

i remeber that guy your talking about. has his spine fused together. you said he can pick up700lb yoke , cant walk with it, but he can stand there. thats impressive.

X

 

[benchmonster]

Brad has pulled a bunch more than that on the 18 inch deadlift. Brad is a freind of mine. I talk to him at least once a week. His stone lifting is what impresses me. For such a short guy with short limbs to move a big stone is amazing to me.

And it is no coincidence to me that he is one of, if not THE best under 200 lb strongman around. He does landscaping, and cuts and hauls limbs all the time. That stuff tends to make you pretty strong and very well conditioned.

B.

 

[Exodus]

Brad has pulled a bunch more than that on the 18 inch deadlift. Brad is a freind of mine. I talk to him at least once a week. His stone lifting is what impresses me. For such a short guy with short limbs to move a big stone is amazing to me.

And it is no coincidence to me that he is one of, if not THE best under 200 lb strongman around. He does landscaping, and cuts and hauls limbs all the time. That stuff tends to make you pretty strong and very well conditioned.

B.

he's incredible to watch. and a super nice guy. he gave my wife a shirt to wear at Dardenfest becuse he thought the hussefelt stone would scratch her up with the one she had on.

i love watching him load stones. i saw him load all 5 stones........(last one being 310lbs) in nashville. he was the only lightweight that could do that.

then this last weekend....... he loaded the 165 and 185 stones on a 5'1 platform (brad is 5'4) and then the 190/230/245/265/and the 285 stone. he quit becuase he was the last person to go in the light weight class and no one else had even loaded the 265 stone.

X

 

[PolishHammer1977]

gotcha.........

i remeber that guy your talking about. has his spine fused together. you said he can pick up700lb yoke , cant walk with it, but he can stand there. thats impressive.

X

Quite impressive indeed. I still remember that like it ws yesterday. I hope to be that strong someday.

 

[b fold the truth]

Brad has pulled a bunch more than that on the 18 inch deadlift. Brad is a freind of mine. I talk to him at least once a week. His stone lifting is what impresses me. For such a short guy with short limbs to move a big stone is amazing to me.

And it is no coincidence to me that he is one of, if not THE best under 200 lb strongman around. He does landscaping, and cuts and hauls limbs all the time. That stuff tends to make you pretty strong and very well conditioned.

B.

I think I saw Brad pull in the mid 6's from 18" before. He is just strong from head to toe. How many solid 200 pound guys do you know that are 5'4"

He just finds a way...no excuses...just finds a way.

B True

 

[JOKER47]

boy did I find that out the hard way.....

You and me both, bud. My knees have been reminding me ever since.....


Joker

 

[OreoPL]

hey thanks for all the replys. it is true i am just working on ideas for how to focus my training. b-fold asked me before how strongman was affecting my trainign and how i was gonna change. before i was like no problem i just gon do my old westside stuff with slight changes and add events. well now 2 weeks into it i have missed 2 weeks starit of gym due to bicep tenson injuries. i am seeing i am gonna have to change and cut back so i just looking for ideas and woundered about this one. i will get back to the drawing board and let yall know when i figure out my routine i am also a mechanic and it seems i reinjure myself everyday that i work so that may be what my problem is. if i fix injury by not working for a few days and then hit my old routine with the events i may be able to do it but only time will tell.