stop tren and add winny??? help.

[hanibal]

i'm on week 6 of my primo, prop, tren cutting cycle. i wasn't going crazy w/ the tren, BD tren hexa, only 100mg E4D. i was planning on stopping after week 6 and start BD 50mg winny tabs for next 6. i love tren but i don't like the toxicity, which is why i keep it at 200mg/week. i've done winny shots, never tabs. i have 100, more than enough. if i do it i will do 50mg EOD. i have 12 years under my belt but now as i turn 30 and have a son, i don't want to do high doses w/ shit that's more toxic. would continuing the tren for another 6 weeks be more toxic or less than switching to 6 weeks of winny tabs. my main objective is to get lean enough to get abs out good. been dieting since mid may. was 256 at 6'1. now 238. getting harder each day. just bought a treadmill yeaterday. getting it wed. will then increase cardio from 30min 3 times a week to 45 min 5 days a week on MT stomach. need to get down to about 220. i'm wondering if staying on tren or switching to winny will help me more. i was gonna stop prop after 8 weeks. entire cycle is 12 weeks. i now think i'll stay on the prop at 100mg EOD, till end of cycle, along w/ 500mg/week primo. i'm also tapering down w/ T3. 5th week, 1 more. on/off clen too.

 

[bigmann245]

i took tren at 150mg eod and didnt have any problems. take milk thistle with it to help your liver just incase. i got mine a walmart. winny pills are hard on the liver because they are oral. correct me if im wrong, but injectible is safer due to it passes the liver the first time around and when i gets to the liver its not as much correct? the orals go right through the liver and is more toxic. imop i would stick to the tren if your worried about the toxicity, but if it were me i would go with the winny just to mix it up a bit. our bodies tend to adapt to what we put in it so by changing it up will keep your body guessing and not use to the same thing. hope this helps.

 

[hanibal]

i know pills are more toxic to liver in general. basically what i want to know is are 6 weeks of oral winny less/more toxic than another 6 weeks tren at 200mg/week, without winny?

 

[Tweakle]

the tren liver toxicity supposedly only applied to parabolan because of the ester... don't know if that's true or not but I've had no problems from running tren for 5 months straight

 

[bigmann245]

the tren liver toxicity supposedly only applied to parabolan because of the ester... don't know if that's true or not but I've had no problems from running tren for 5 months straight

same here. i had a urine test done while on tren and it came back bad only because i had high ketones and protien in the urine. i dropped the tren for a little bit and went back and it tested fine for my liver. imop the tren if fine where you are at. if your getting good results then keep it that way or do like i said before, change it up just to keep your body from getting used to it.

 

[hanibal]

tweakle i'm on parabolan, tren hexa from BD labs. 5 months straight? what dose? acetate or what? i did homebrew acetate last year. never again. sick sweating, high BP and anxiety bad. nothing w/ this though. i like it. i'm doing it w/ primo and prop. nice cycle.

 

[donsj]

are you sure oral winny is 17-AA ?

 

[DJ_UFO]

i'm on week 6 of my primo, prop, tren cutting cycle. i wasn't going crazy w/ the tren, BD tren hexa, only 100mg E4D. i was planning on stopping after week 6 and start BD 50mg winny tabs for next 6. i love tren but i don't like the toxicity, which is why i keep it at 200mg/week. i've done winny shots, never tabs. i have 100, more than enough. if i do it i will do 50mg EOD. i have 12 years under my belt but now as i turn 30 and have a son, i don't want to do high doses w/ shit that's more toxic. would continuing the tren for another 6 weeks be more toxic or less than switching to 6 weeks of winny tabs. my main objective is to get lean enough to get abs out good. been dieting since mid may. was 256 at 6'1. now 238. getting harder each day. just bought a treadmill yeaterday. getting it wed. will then increase cardio from 30min 3 times a week to 45 min 5 days a week on MT stomach. need to get down to about 220. i'm wondering if staying on tren or switching to winny will help me more. i was gonna stop prop after 8 weeks. entire cycle is 12 weeks. i now think i'll stay on the prop at 100mg EOD, till end of cycle, along w/ 500mg/week primo. i'm also tapering down w/ T3. 5th week, 1 more. on/off clen too.

What do you mean by "tren toxicity". Are you having any bad reaction? pain? got blood test? or just because you read is toxic?

 

[hanibal]

i feel ok but i do still feel heart beating alittle harder than w/ other AS. main reason is from what i researched on it. supposedely pretty toxic, but is it morer toxic than oral winny? it's either stay on tren hexa another 6 weeks at 200mg/week or stop and switch to oral winny 50mg EOD. other option is to do both another 6 weeks. 3 or 4 years ago i would do this without even thinking twice. i guess in my old age i'm getting more cautious. other AS i'm on:
prop 300mg/week for 12 weeks
primo 250mg E4D for 12 weeks
tren hexa 100mg E4D 6 weeks so far
clen 2 days on 2 off. stop after 2 weeks and wait another 2 weeks before continuing up to .16mcg/day.
tapering down w/ T3. on 5th week. 1 more week.