Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I first started getting these stomach problems about 2-3 months ago when I started my bulking diet. 3000-4000 cals. Its a gnawing stomache that stays with me almost every day!! I have seen a doc and gotten that test done where you drink some chalky stuff and they x ray you. I also have gotten blood work done. I think it might be IBS, but I am off the diet eating regular food and I still get the bad stomache aches. It was so bad recently I lost 7 pounds because I was too scared to eat. My doc doesnt know what it is and it is really starting to effect my bodybuilding. I get severe bloating with it also ( sometimes look like im pregnant) Its hard to speculate that I have IBS since I dont really get any constipation or diaarihia ( i just feel like im sick or somethin all day. Any of you guys ever had anything like this have any guesses to what it is or advice. Im running out of ideas......
Stomache problems....... really bad
- Thread starter tommboy
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I couldn't do anything about not eating. I really really had stomaches that bad. ( so bad I would be moody and yelling at everyone and just laying on the couch ALL DAY)
Anyways I want to use the big key food sources
Oatmeal eggs sausage
Steak, veggie? banna?
chicken, rice apple?
During school Ill take a 600 cal weight gainer (cyto gainer)
Whey isolate in water w/ creatine
those are the foods id eat
Anyways I want to use the big key food sources
Oatmeal eggs sausage
Steak, veggie? banna?
chicken, rice apple?
During school Ill take a 600 cal weight gainer (cyto gainer)
Whey isolate in water w/ creatine
those are the foods id eat
StellarTiggy said:Perhaps that is what you need, then? A diet? Like I said - people mix whatever the hell they can think of w/out thinking. Most of our digestive systems are used to the combinations -and are built to digest everything-, but if that were true then there would be no such thing as indigestion, heartburn, diarrhea, IBS, ect... Gas and indigestion are the most common, followed by constipation and diarrhea, then heartburn..and this may just result in IBS when not careful. I'm sure you've had the gas/bloat reaction after a good pizza or mcdonalds meal.
You've got to remember that you naturally mix a lot when on a bulking diet fundamentally to get all your carbs and protein in. Emphasis on those two in particular. Those two, however, are sometimes the leading cause in gastrointestinal disorders.
A person should always think before performing an action- even if that action is eating. The people on here spend their lives working on their bodies to get fit for competitions and such. You say you haven't eaten anything for 7 days and lost a crapload of weight.. you're taking the babysteps to muscle breakdown, already hindering your results. Diet is very simply defined as your daily eating routine. That is what I'm asking of you...you MUST have had some sort of bulk eating routine before you started getting gas/bloat/uneaseness.
Forgive for the long post
clean. it. up.
get yourself down to very VERY basic major nutrient providers for 14 days.
Brown rice to start. Chicken breasts. pick low glycemic veg/salad choice, flax oil
THAT'S IT. no kidding, you are TRUELY concerned about the cause of your pain? commit to finding out WHAT it is that is causing it. You eat not a damn thing for two boring weeks but this stuff, no beers, nada. If you still have the pain, i suggest seeing GI spcialist to test for Amoebics and for Gastrointeritis, but you will almost certainly NOT have the problems... Then start reintroducing your 'preferered' foods ONE AT A TIME to see what is the trigger.
If you think this is too much work, or too boring to do, then your ailments must not be that bad. This is easy, it works. Try it.
get yourself down to very VERY basic major nutrient providers for 14 days.
Brown rice to start. Chicken breasts. pick low glycemic veg/salad choice, flax oil
THAT'S IT. no kidding, you are TRUELY concerned about the cause of your pain? commit to finding out WHAT it is that is causing it. You eat not a damn thing for two boring weeks but this stuff, no beers, nada. If you still have the pain, i suggest seeing GI spcialist to test for Amoebics and for Gastrointeritis, but you will almost certainly NOT have the problems... Then start reintroducing your 'preferered' foods ONE AT A TIME to see what is the trigger.
If you think this is too much work, or too boring to do, then your ailments must not be that bad. This is easy, it works. Try it.
thats what Im going to do (when I get back from vacation in a week) what do you suggest for breakfeast choices...... No fruit I take it???? Also I just dont understand how this could be it when I never had stomach problems before and now I do..... (with eating w/e I want)
ChefWide said:
landser
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It may be the oatmeal...I was in extreme, and I do mean extreme pain the other day from eating oatmeal. I mixed it with water, and left it in my bag for a few hours, and then ate it. I could not even move an inch, or the pain would be excruciating to me.
It went away after about 4-5 hours...I was bloated and sharp stabbing pains were all over, they even extended all over my torso. I ate oatmeal the same way the next day, thinking it was just some weird expereince, and it happened again to me.
If your talking about bloating, extreme gassiness, and sharp, very intense stomach pains that make it impossible to perform the simplest of tasks, like even stand, this is what I had. Is this similar?
It went away after about 4-5 hours...I was bloated and sharp stabbing pains were all over, they even extended all over my torso. I ate oatmeal the same way the next day, thinking it was just some weird expereince, and it happened again to me.
If your talking about bloating, extreme gassiness, and sharp, very intense stomach pains that make it impossible to perform the simplest of tasks, like even stand, this is what I had. Is this similar?
No I can stand but like right now I ate a steak.... (thats it) And I have extreme bloating and my stomache hurts I dont want to do anything cause of it. I also get these weird cravings for food. Like pizza and stuff I crave them horribly when this happens. I just crave food after I just ate !!!!
landser said:
The fact is we DO change. If you have a GI injury or sensitivity because of some enviromental or internal factor, then things that were creamy are no longer. HEAL THY GUT, dude, do me a favor?
Post a thread on this forum right now, called TOMMBOY log: and list every single thing that enters your mouth, i mean every bonghit, every glass of water, piece of gum, grain of rice, EVERYTHING... do it. start right now and dont woos out and blow it off. You want help? I am willing to do this WITH you, just do it like you mean it.
EVERYTHING... lets see if between the bazillion of us we might find an obvious mistake or series of things you are doing.... just worth trying is all.
AND go see a GI doctor. I have a hunch, but i aint no sawbones, so i dont give medical advice, capiche?
Post a thread on this forum right now, called TOMMBOY log: and list every single thing that enters your mouth, i mean every bonghit, every glass of water, piece of gum, grain of rice, EVERYTHING... do it. start right now and dont woos out and blow it off. You want help? I am willing to do this WITH you, just do it like you mean it.
EVERYTHING... lets see if between the bazillion of us we might find an obvious mistake or series of things you are doing.... just worth trying is all.
AND go see a GI doctor. I have a hunch, but i aint no sawbones, so i dont give medical advice, capiche?
eat big said:
Have to agree with this. I used to get terrible stomach aches and diarrhoea when I was younger, then when began eating slowly and added more fibre to my diet the problem seemed to go away.
However, Tommboy's problem seems a lot more complicated than this. It must have something to do with a reaction to some type of food he eats. Either that or he has increased his calories too quickly and his body is not used to it.
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Nicorette
Guest
tommboy said:
Severe constipation maybe?
Medication?
Dairy?
Intestinal parasites---gross but very possible. Google it!
Ish
New member
Yeah, I'm serious. Funny thing is, the tests showed that it worked well, almost too well. But, considering I had all the symptoms, they took it out anyways. Apperently, I wasn't responsive to the tests. I've been feeling fine since. But that's just me. Go get checked out by a doc. Try to narrrow down foods to see what bothers you. For me, anything really fatty would bother me REALLY bad. If I would eat something really fatty, I would vomit, or come really close.
billy boob
New member
my quick thoughts...
could be a microbial problem. are the untensils, cups , plates you use clean and sanitary? when you eat oats etc. are they adequaetly cooked? I ask becasue i have had the same problems and usually from fruits, veges, wet oats etc. these foods are excellent for microbial growth, and they are restriceted when someone is immunocompromised becasue of the potential of infection. i would check these few areas. like the chef said, reduce your food intake to a couple safe things to find out the cause, this is the only way to pinpoint it!!! then slowly add foods
could be a microbial problem. are the untensils, cups , plates you use clean and sanitary? when you eat oats etc. are they adequaetly cooked? I ask becasue i have had the same problems and usually from fruits, veges, wet oats etc. these foods are excellent for microbial growth, and they are restriceted when someone is immunocompromised becasue of the potential of infection. i would check these few areas. like the chef said, reduce your food intake to a couple safe things to find out the cause, this is the only way to pinpoint it!!! then slowly add foods
Nicorette said:
I have gone to the store and picked up some rice and chicken... But im leaving for vacation in 2 days and it would be pointless to start right now. Ill keep you guys updated the day I get back ( 1 week)
PS: how do you guys make and store your rice? It takes like 40 mins do you just make a lot and refridge the rest?
PS: how do you guys make and store your rice? It takes like 40 mins do you just make a lot and refridge the rest?
StellarTiggy said:
Growth&Courage
New member
Sorry to repeat myself here, but digestive disorders/problems are really tricky to tackle as diagnosis can reveal a multitude of disorders and yet not yield any conclusive results at all.
I think that white chalk & x-ray procedure was carried out to determined if you had parasites in your intestinal tracts or not.
IBS pateints do not normally have parasites and can manifest itself in a variety of symtoms such as constant bloatedness interchanged intermittently with diarrhea & constipation, the feelings of incomplete evacuation, irregular bowel movements, poor nutrients absortpion & assimiliation, feelings of fatigue and tiredness etc..
Stress is a HUGE factor as there are millions of neurons in your intestinal tracts that are directly connected to your brain /mind. They trigger a response in your digestive tract that you would have never envisioned of.
CHefWide's suggestion is a start. Keep your diet very basic. The problem is that you may have some kind of food allergy too, which you were never aware of (or suspected of).
Seriously, I would look at this problem HOLISTICALLY as supposed to medically.
I once was attacked with IBS-like symtoms which made me on the verge to insanity, but as I let go of the basics like the need to fulfill my daily calorie and protein intake, all the vitamins and gear I needed for the day, I began to see positive results with my IBS... I stressed less and became much smaller in size and frame for a few months.
Once I was convinced that I was 80% better, I slowly resumed what I had and be more cautious of what I put into my body as well as my mind.
I think that white chalk & x-ray procedure was carried out to determined if you had parasites in your intestinal tracts or not.
IBS pateints do not normally have parasites and can manifest itself in a variety of symtoms such as constant bloatedness interchanged intermittently with diarrhea & constipation, the feelings of incomplete evacuation, irregular bowel movements, poor nutrients absortpion & assimiliation, feelings of fatigue and tiredness etc..
Stress is a HUGE factor as there are millions of neurons in your intestinal tracts that are directly connected to your brain /mind. They trigger a response in your digestive tract that you would have never envisioned of.
CHefWide's suggestion is a start. Keep your diet very basic. The problem is that you may have some kind of food allergy too, which you were never aware of (or suspected of).
Seriously, I would look at this problem HOLISTICALLY as supposed to medically.
I once was attacked with IBS-like symtoms which made me on the verge to insanity, but as I let go of the basics like the need to fulfill my daily calorie and protein intake, all the vitamins and gear I needed for the day, I began to see positive results with my IBS... I stressed less and became much smaller in size and frame for a few months.
Once I was convinced that I was 80% better, I slowly resumed what I had and be more cautious of what I put into my body as well as my mind.
I just went through a serious bout of something similar. I am on a precontest diet, extra clean, no shakes, so I know its not the diet. I could hardly eat or drink anything hot, it felt like my food was getting stuck going down. It feels like a lump in your throat that moves slow with severe pain, and more pain when it gets to the bottom of your stomach. I burped like crazy and DAM DID THAT HURT! I went to the doc, I have severe acid reflux AND I'm on med for it. I'm not a doc but sounds similar.
I was also talking to a guy at my work who had exactly the same thing.He linked it to herb tea. Guess what I started drinking a ton of this a couple weeks ago too. I'm tossing it tonight and I will be playing with this and the medds, I'd rather not be taking anything. If its the tea I can stop it and the meds.
I was also talking to a guy at my work who had exactly the same thing.He linked it to herb tea. Guess what I started drinking a ton of this a couple weeks ago too. I'm tossing it tonight and I will be playing with this and the medds, I'd rather not be taking anything. If its the tea I can stop it and the meds.
Weird question: I have been pooping red mucous looks like bloody mucos. .... Is that a symptom of IBS im pretty sure it is it has happened to me before but just a little freeked cause it feels like I gotta fart and then that comes out so now I gotta be carefull about my farts! lol
and again still on vacation and cant really do anything diet wise.
and again still on vacation and cant really do anything diet wise.
Growth&Courage
New member
gofig said:
I have minor acid reflux disease too...for me the acid gets reflux all the way to the throat giving me light burning sensations every now and then.
Despite the condition being of gastrointestinal disorder in nature my specialist said that stress play a role too.
I am taking miracid 3x daily after meals with it.
Growth&Courage
New member
tommboy said:
Red mucous?
Bro, I'd seriously get it checked out.. go and see a specialist and at the very least get your stool examined.
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Nicorette
Guest
Google Acidophilus. It's a herbal supplement that helps ease stomach discomfort.
