Steroids and diabetes //// 2nd cycle

[richardbraden]

Hello all,,,,

Im now 25 Ive done 1 cycle about to start my second cycle I am type 2 diabetic,,, everything went fine for my first cycle just a little increase in blood glucose levels is ok i just increased my insulin; I think maybe becasue of all the food i was eating

I did 600mg sustanon w/ 300mg deca for my first cycle for 10weeks and did a full pct; I wish to increase my 2nd cycle to 1200mg test , 600mg deca

Is 16 weeks to long to be on my 2nd cycle , Or should I just stick with 10/12 weeks?

Im looking for some reassurance

PS, I am also taking Citalopram and Olanzapine

 

[richardbraden]

Bump

 

[stevesmi]

i would never recommend a newb run deca for a first cycle. what is your height/weight/bf.. you say you are a diabetic, well to me that means you are overweight. deca is a poor choice for you if this is the case.

if you do insist on running deca keep it 8 weeks only. deca stays in the system a long time.. you do realize running deca 16 weeks is really like running it 21 weeks right? unless you plan on going on HRT at a young age then i suggest you keep your doses moderate and keep it at 8 weeks only

 

[richardbraden]

i would never recommend a newb run deca for a first cycle. what is your height/weight/bf.. you say you are a diabetic, well to me that means you are overweight. deca is a poor choice for you if this is the case.

if you do insist on running deca keep it 8 weeks only. deca stays in the system a long time.. you do realize running deca 16 weeks is really like running it 21 weeks right? unless you plan on going on HRT at a young age then i suggest you keep your doses moderate and keep it at 8 weeks only

srry for the lack of info,,, btw it is my 2nd cycle,,, i ran the deca for 8 weeks and sust for 10 did full pct,,, my blood sugars were a little high.

How is deca a bad choice to run along side test ( i ran 8 weeks of deca no problems *(w/ adex),,, what do u suggest I run along side Test

It seems to u idk (u call me newb) much im more concerned about the relation to diabetes and doing a heaveier dose

 

[stevesmi]

the first cycle you ran is deca. although a mild steroid, deca is one of the toughest AAS to recover from. it takes 5 weeks for the esthers to clear your body.

also what are your stats? i'm trying to help you here

 

[richardbraden]

not sure on height but around 5,10 weight 180 lbs ish* bf not sure ,,, im not afraid of a little weight around the waist,

I was looking to do 1200 enanthate,, im not sure if that is too much maybe do 900mg instead maybe run 900 test e for 12 weeks with some thing else

what do u think ?

 

[stevesmi]

well what were your results like on your deca cycle? obviously you were dissapointed which is why I'm assuming you want to up your dosages. 5 10 and 180 isn't very big, its pretty skinny.

maybe we need to work on your diet and workout first and get that corrected.. this way you don't waste another cycle.

what are your workouts like? sets/reps/splits? list your diet.. be honest.. if you are not honest I cannot help you.

 

[Will I Am 86]

not sure on height but around 5,10 weight 180 lbs ish* bf not sure ,,, im not afraid of a little weight around the waist,

I was looking to do 1200 enanthate,, im not sure if that is too much maybe do 900mg instead maybe run 900 test e for 12 weeks with some thing else

what do u think ?

I think there will be an RIP post for you in a few months 1200mg is way too much for a second cycle so is 900mg go back to the drawing board do some serious research speak to a competitive bodybuilder before you kill yourself. If you want some serious advice on what to take, how much and wen post your full stats including your bf and what your diet and training consists of.

 

[richardbraden]

I wasnt disappointed with my first cycle, shhould i just run the same cycle as my first instead of uppping the dosage

diet ; I have a fantastic diet,,, diabetic diet is one of the healthiest (wholemeal , fish , fresh meat ,fruit , plenty of dairy + whey protien shakes)

I eat alot of noodles+bully beef+marrow fat peas,,,,, homemade rice pudding with artificial sweetners ofc

spaghetti bolognese , chili con carne etc,,,,

 

[stevesmi]

how did u get diabetes? i'm not an expert in it but i know that poor lifestyle over time can lead to it. not to nitpick but where are your veggies?

also what is your training look like?

and if you weren't dissapointed in your first cycle why do you want to double everything this time around?

i'm still confused as to what your goals are.