in not saying its right but I ran a cycle that im just finishing up in the next 3 weeks,500mg eq and 100mg eod prop,I gained 13lbs,bf went up maybe 1-2% if that,I added a lil fat on my lower abs thats about it, and I had a shit diet due to all kinds of stress in my life,couldnt eat/sleep,and drank alot to cope with it,I know I could have added double what I did,without the drink,and once again Im not saying its right,but you can gain while drinking on a cycle,just not as much