Sterility in plastic sackets

[bittersuit_98]

Here is the deal:

Does AAS' oil get contaminated for being in direct contact with plastic sackets they're transported in? (Kinda like ketchup baggies we find at fast food rests.)

My buddy says that using plastic sackets to transport/store AAS is not a good idea 'cause those sackets are made of 100% plastic, thus the oil may get contaminated since it's in direct contact with the plastic sacket, so the polymers may come off the sackets' walls when both materials (AAS and sackets) enter in contact with each other, 'causing contamination of the substance thus affecting its sterility which may lead to potential health issues such as an abcess.

What are your thoughts fellas?

BTW I've heard some bros are using this technique to conceal gear. They said stealth is priority these days.

thanks for the inputs bros

 

[BigCracker]

Do you know anyone that's used them personally? Any problems? (abcesses, etc)

 

[bittersuit_98]

Sort of. My gym pal got this gear then he draw the sacket into syringe as instructed, he shoots off about 2 cc's each time, but he's been complaining about too much pain in the ass (literally), intense soreness, some knots or lumps at the injection spot and that kind of stuff. We're positive it's not the inj. technique. He doesn't doubt his source either...he just thinks that only god knows how long the gear has been stored within the sacket before drawining it into the syringe, and after shooting off only 2 cc's at a time from the syringe, the remaint of the oil stays there for at least another couple of days, and he thinks that syringe may be causing contamination due to indirect contact with the skin and syringe's plastic itself.

He just wants to rule out that is not the quality of the gear, but rather is that the stealth technique may be counterproductive.that's about it

 

[scout69]

Ahh I say fuck it use the shit, if you get an infection you hit the Doc up get some Meds and you'll be ok, Hell if you need someone to teste them out for you just send them to me

 

[drrman]

Ahh I say fuck it use the shit, if you get an infection you hit the Doc up get some Meds and you'll be ok, Hell if you need someone to teste them out for you just send them to me

not all infections can be treated with meds scout! you should see some of the scars on people's bodies that have had to have abcesses cut open and drained.....not a pretty site

as for the packets, there was a guy on here a few weeks ago complaining about infections/pain from the shit in the packets, if i could get anything else i personally would try to

 

[Anthony Roberts]

The sachets are heat sealed. There's no "glue" or whatever, involved, and no chance of an abcess, unless there's something going wrong with the injection itself.

I know you said that wasn't the issue, but your post reveals otherwise. You can't leave it in an open sachet until it's time to shoot again- the manufacturer clearly states that you need to draw up all the oil once the sachet is open, then either transfer it to multiple syringes, or into a multi use sterile vial. You can't keep using the same syringe, or sachet, or needle.

If he was shooting a more highly concentrated gear, then maybe that's the answer also? I would think Supertest 450 would hurt? Anecdotally, highly concentrated gear seems to hurt quite a bit.

 

[Massive Pumps]

what about blood infection if you get that your screwed alot harder to fight....

 

[chestmaster1]

Here is the deal:

Does AAS' oil get contaminated for being in direct contact with plastic sackets they're transported in? (Kinda like ketchup baggies we find at fast food rests.)

My buddy says that using plastic sackets to transport/store AAS is not a good idea 'cause those sackets are made of 100% plastic, thus the oil may get contaminated since it's in direct contact with the plastic sacket, so the polymers may come off the sackets' walls when both materials (AAS and sackets) enter in contact with each other, 'causing contamination of the substance thus affecting its sterility which may lead to potential health issues such as an abcess.

What are your thoughts fellas?

BTW I've heard some bros are using this technique to conceal gear. They said stealth is priority these days.

thanks for the inputs bros

Do you honestly think the people who made these packets didn't think about that? No abcesses or Infections here

 

[cambridge1918]

I have been on 500/mg of stealth test e for six weeks now and I honestly think
it is the best test I have every used! up 22 pounds I recommend everyone try it
if you know where to find it

 

[macrophage69alpha]

If he was shooting a more highly concentrated gear, then maybe that's the answer also? I would think Supertest 450 would hurt? Anecdotally, highly concentrated gear seems to hurt quite a bit.

usually because of the excessive BA/BB used to achieve the concentration, though also likely due to the irritant properties of the AAS themselves.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

note- UG just means that its not legitimate pharma, quality can be as good... EVEN better in some cases.

 

[Big_Joe]

The only thing that would worry me is plastic is porous. I'm sure that when the packet was filled they tried hard not to scratch their balls to much but during shipment or storage on the boat something and get spilled onto the plastic and contaminate the contents.

Yea I know it's unlikely but having personally packaged and shipped stuff from China it wouldn't surprise me a hole lot.

 

[drrman]

note- UG just means that its not legitimate pharma, quality can be as good... EVEN better in some cases.

THANK YOU MAC.....some ug labs are VERY good stuff, and the shit i make myself i'll put up against ANY lab(I don't sell gear either....so don't ask me for it)

 

[eliteforce]

I would never store injectable steroids in plastic, the benzyl alcohol that is part of the solution deteriorates plastic, if your a homebrewer and you have some ba, all you have to do is put some of it in a plastic cup and you'll see what i'm talking about, it starts to damage the plastic, ba is a powerful solvent and plastic is one of the things it can disolve.

 

[ALIN]

Here is the deal:

Does AAS' oil get contaminated for being in direct contact with plastic sackets they're transported in? (Kinda like ketchup baggies we find at fast food rests.)

My buddy says that using plastic sackets to transport/store AAS is not a good idea 'cause those sackets are made of 100% plastic, thus the oil may get contaminated since it's in direct contact with the plastic sacket, so the polymers may come off the sackets' walls when both materials (AAS and sackets) enter in contact with each other, 'causing contamination of the substance thus affecting its sterility which may lead to potential health issues such as an abcess.

What are your thoughts fellas?

BTW I've heard some bros are using this technique to conceal gear. They said stealth is priority these days.

thanks for the inputs bros

They are very high quality sterile products. No worries. You can also run through whatman filter into sterile vial if you like.

 

[drrman]

I would never store injectable steroids in plastic, the benzyl alcohol that is part of the solution deteriorates plastic, if your a homebrewer and you have some ba, all you have to do is put some of it in a plastic cup and you'll see what i'm talking about, it starts to damage the plastic, ba is a powerful solvent and plastic is one of the things it can disolve.

THIS IS COMPLETELY wrong bro, my BA comes shipped to me in plastic bottles from a distributor bro, just as my BB does, it only attacks "some" forms of plastic, research it bro.....google benzyl alcohol and plastic degradation

 

[jonnydigital]

Very true, plasticisers usually will only leach out if there is an extremely high concentration of alcohol. Ethyl alcohol can eat some plastics too, but christ, they sell liquor in PETE bottles.

 

[bittersuit_98]

Thank you everyone!

I tried to be as discreet as possible regarding the brand in the gear 'cause I felt my bud was doing something wrong, and in fact he was/is.

First, he clarified me that he's been switching needles but using the same syringe, and the concentrations of test are particularly high like Anthony said. About 400mg/ml.

Second, he got his hands in some kind of gear that although is packed in sackets, it's not the brand you guys are talking about (stealth) nor comes from the reputable sources you guys know.
He said that his source is reputable, and he's been buying from them for a while with great results with traditional gear, and the sakcet presentation was just introduced by his source a couple of months ago.

So thank you again, and my bud will be looking closesly for signs of improvement.

 

[Advisor_x]

First did the satchets was sterilized, wich I doubt and second the minute you open it loose sterility.........

 

[BigCracker]

not all infections can be treated with meds scout! you should see some of the scars on people's bodies that have had to have abcesses cut open and drained.....not a pretty site

as for the packets, there was a guy on here a few weeks ago complaining about infections/pain from the shit in the packets, if i could get anything else i personally would try to

Agreed. I know a few guys that had to have chunks of their ass removed(literally) do to bad injections. They were out of the gym for months recovering.

Another guy I know got a Staph infection from a bad injection he let go for a week or so w/o being treated and lost 40 lbs in the hospital over 2 weeks-he almost died. His bill was like $16K.

I myself had an abcess in my tricep that required over 50 cc's of puss removed(it looked like a 50 cc bottle of Laurabolin sized lump sticking out of the back of my arm.) 7 yrs later I stil have a small permanant indent where it was.

Once you have an abcess, no oral antibiotic can penetrate deeply enough to treat it. It requires very strong injectable antibiotics along with lancing/draining daily over a few days-then it's followed by oral antibiotics to prevent the infection from recurring.

Being so cavalier about your health can be quite risky. Some guys need to learn the hard way I guess?

 

[BigCracker]

THIS IS COMPLETELY wrong bro, my BA comes shipped to me in plastic bottles from a distributor bro, just as my BB does, it only attacks "some" forms of plastic, research it bro.....google benzyl alcohol and plastic degradation

What about the legit vet bladders they sell that come in 1 litre plastic bags? I saw EQ from Australia that came like that. It looks a lot like one of those hanging IV bags they hook people up to when they're in the hospital. I doubt the packaging in plastic is an issue.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

First did the satchets was sterilized, wich I doubt and second the minute you open it loose sterility.........

They're sterilized in the same way hospital have sterilized single use sachets.

(Think alcohol pads- they come in single use sterile sachets. Or, if you're into piercings, think about the single use Bacitracin sachets that are used to lubricate new jewelry before it's inserted into a piercing hole)

 

[macrophage69alpha]

sachets

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Got something to say?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

not in particular, you were the only one that spelled sachet correctly.