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Sten Guns found

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Richmond police have released the name of a man found with a cache of weapons during a traffic stop there Monday night.

But exactly why Earl Leslie Heltsley, 35, of Richmond, was carting around nine pipe bombs, three automatic weapons and a box of ammunition is still a mystery, according to Sgt. Enos Johnson.

"It's still being looked into,'' Johnson said today. "We don't know anything yet.''

Based on a suspicious person report, Heltsley was stopped around 11:30 p.m. Monday at a doughnut shop near Visalia Avenue and 23rd Street, according to Johnson.

When officers tried talking to him, Heltsley reportedly fought with them and was subsequently arrested. It was upon his arrest that officers searched Heltsley's car and found the weapons, Johnson said.

In addition to the explosives, Heltsley was traveling with three fully automatic, World War Two-era "stem gun'' machine guns, Johnson said. One was reportedly assembled and operable, while the others were disassembled. The 9mm bullets found in the car would have fit those guns, according to police.

All the weapons are now in the possession of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, according to Johnson.

Heltsley remains in Contra Costa County Jail on suspicion of possessing explosive devices and fully automatic weapons, a violation of federal law.
 
I hate the media, they're called Sten guns, not stem guns and they aren't machine guns they're sub machineguns. They are also easily produced in a "garage factory" by someone with basic metal working knowledge and a stamping machine. If firearms ever get banned maybe rsnoble could make a living selling sten guns to criminals?:D
 
JavaGuru said:
I hate the media, they're called Sten guns, not stem guns and they aren't machine guns they're sub machineguns. They are also easily produced in a "garage factory" by someone with basic metal working knowledge and a stamping machine. If firearms ever get banned maybe rsnoble could make a living selling sten guns to criminals?:D

Seriously, stens are so uncontrollable and innacurate at full auto...why are they even banned?
 
anabolicmd said:


Seriously, stens are so uncontrollable and innacurate at full auto...why are they even banned?

They worked pretty good Return to Castle Wolfenstein except they overheated to easy.
 
Seriously, stens are so uncontrollable and innacurate at full auto...why are they even banned?

Anything full auto is banned regardless of effectiveness. It's not like gang bangers care a lot about accuracy in a drive by, seems like the only people they hit are the innocent bystanders. The original "drive by" was invented in the 1920's by gangsters using the Thompson sub machinegun.
 
JavaGuru said:


Anything full auto is banned regardless of effectiveness. It's not like gang bangers care a lot about accuracy in a drive by, seems like the only people they hit are the innocent bystanders. The original "drive by" was invented in the 1920's by gangsters using the Thompson sub machinegun.

Yeah but the second ammendment allows the citizens to be armed to defend themselves from a tyrannical government. The government has full auto weapons, doesnt it?
 
Depends on how you interpret it but considering our tradition of private gun ownership it's hard for the Supreme Court to ban gun ownership, so the legislature does it a little bit at a time. In the 1920's anybody could purchase a full auto weapon, even through mail order. Until WWII more Thompsons were sold to civilians than the military. Much of the original gun control stemmed from gang violence that resulted from prohibition, our first "war on drugs." Those who ignore history....
 
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