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Stem Cell Research..

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What' are your views on this topic? I don't think ethics should be a matter, the cells are not representative of a human, they are just cells. Given, they will eventually mature into an embryo, BUT only in a womb. If we argue so much about the destruction of a possible life, what about all the actual lives that could be changed for the better with the advances to medicine made by stem cell research?I think that if we (the United States) does not lead this field, some other less scrupulous government or corporation will.
Can you say biological weapons?
Biotech is the wave of the future and the next step in human evolution.

I know I know, my arguement is so disjointed, just had my mental bell rung by a girl that I thought was the one. Wackness.:mad:
 
In my opinion it isn't a human life until thought begins. These few cells are far from being able to produce thought. Thought is the source of all that is human life and for that matter all other animals. Without our thoughts the world surrounding us is non-existant. The potential benifits far outweigh the meager argument we are sacrificing a life...As if we really need more people on this overcrowded planet where famine and disesase are perpetuated by unneeded breeding of the human species. The thought put forth to create stem cells is all that is human life...The source of them is incabable of thought and therefore should not be considered a human life. Many of the embryos used or sought to be used are destine for extermination regardless. Why not put them to use?
 
I think nearly everyone agrees there is a great potential for medical advances here, but...
I think a lot of the resistance is a gut fear of where this can lead.
People are imagining human clones being grown in a lab for organ harvesting.
But if such a thing happened, who is to say that clone being harvested isn't fully human and have all the rights of someone naturally born?
Imagine if you woke on a lab table only to find you're existance was to have your innards removed for someone else benefit.
I've even heard a scientist counter this by saying we could clone whole bodies that would not develop a brain...
somehow not that reassuring an answer.
We may be at the dawn of a whole new generation of "slave traffic".
 
agreed

which is precisely why it needs regulation as opposed to some scientist trying to get a place in the world of record going off on his/her own

but in terms of pure stem, cell research, they should go for it!!
 
One of the groups most interested in cloning is a New-age religious group,
I think they're called "Raellians"? and talk of preparing to receive visits from extraterrestrials.
Their crack pot religion aside, they have some impressive scientists on their team.
They've threatened if anyone stops their research with legislation,
they will simply buy a large ship and conduct research on international waters.
They have the financial backing to carry out that threat.
 
Beezers said:
In my opinion it isn't a human life until thought begins.

People who are in comas are not able to think; therefore, they must not be human. That means it is OK to kill everyone who is in a coma.

Oops... your argument doesn't work anymore!

BTW: I do support stem-cell research. I just don't support your argument in favor of it because your argument can also be used to support abortion, which I do not support.

-Warik
 
PHP:
can we say biological weapons?

Exactly why you don't mess with this shit. What Hilter would have done to possess this knowledge
 
To answer the question "what would Hitler have done"
Simple, he would have built his master race.

Not that it isn't going to happen just because Hitler is dead.

The eugenics wars have just started. Just wait till thirty years from now. It should be interesting.
 
Warik,
Until thought BEGINS. People in comas or suffering from illnesses have thought in thier lifetime. They have created the image of the world around them and responded to it. This is a far cry from a few cells that are far from producing thought of thier own.
 
Beezers said:
In my opinion it isn't a human life until thought begins.

This would be extremely hard to judge...I just read the other day about babies being much smarter than people ever realized. So how can we know this???

I am bothered too that pain begins probably a lot before thought :(

I hate when anti-abortion groups try to emote people out of abortions with movies of you poke a tiny pre-born baby and it flinches...as if that will make a pregnant Mom any more able to not hurt a child she never wanted!!!

I like it when we work on the minimizing pain principle, but applied with great care so we never lose sight of individual pain - otherwise we'd be killing everyone who was 'in a minority' or 'different from the ruling party' - to maximize comfort to the powerful or those who win simply by numbers... :rolleyes:

I don't really know enough about stem cell research to say anything particularly pertinent...I am wary of "where's it all gonna end" arguments because so often they are used senselessly to hinder very good ideas.

Unfortunately they are a retaliation against negative experience that shows that once you give people an inch they take a mile...at least sometimes.

If people were honest life would be much simpler and easier. (I think! :eek2: )

love
helen
 
john937 said:

they will simply buy a large ship and conduct research on international waters.
They have the financial backing to carry out that threat.

a cheap torpedo boat took out a super dreadnought battleship in WWI i believe....;)
 
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