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Starting Test Enthanate

buh_man06

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I am starting a cycle of just Test Enthanate. Any suggestions on cycle dosage and post cycle. I don't have any human growth but was considering sustain. Will that do? I am 6'1 250 with about 19 % bf Starting to run 3-4 time a week 2 miles and loading up on protien. I am only concerned with bulking for now. My diet is strictly lean meats and vegs. Little to no carbs. Any HELP?
 
research more bro
a simple search will find so much info about first cycles and pct
post up your diet meal by meal
you need to eat carbs
 
Are you lifting weights? How old are you? What training experience do you have?

Don't touch that gear until you have some clue of what you're doing.
 
Yes I am lifting wieghts and have been for most of my life. I plyed highshcool line backer, ex-miltary, highschool weightlifting team, and wrestling team. I have taken test before just on a more casual basis. Before I found this forum. I am 36 and have put on a little around the middle not alot. I am benching around 315-320 so I am not totally inexperinced. Just a little limited on gear right now. My guy has enthanate and test 400. I get it locally don''t really trust internet ordering so get what I can. So any advice? Without the flaming!!! LOL LOL
 
WK 1-10 600mg test E EW

look into running derma throughout the cycle, derma sustain for PCT

HC.G @ 250iu twice per week throughout cycle

have some sort of AI on hand

how did you take test casually in the past? injects? give us more info.

help us help YOU!!!!!
 
Thanks Swole for your input. A nice direct answer from someone looking to actually HELP> I took Test a couple a times just as a small boost at 200-400 mgs per week on a couple of different occasions. Kinda of young and inexperienced and before I stumbled on to these kinda places. Now I am taking the time to do my homework and read. I have actually spent countless hours on this site but the funny thing is there are so many opinions that you are kinda left sometimes wondering who knows better than who. I am studing though I won't make the same mistakes again. I know about the Clomid and Novaldex and HGH but I had read on here somewhere that the derma sustain could be used for PCT. Maybe I read it wrong that is why I asked. Also as I stated earlier I am kinda limited on gear selection at the moment so I have to make do. Maybe my circumstances will change though and I will be able to get things as needed . Thanks again SWOLE any other advice would be great.
 
buh_man06 said:
Thanks Swole for your input. A nice direct answer from someone looking to actually HELP> I took Test a couple a times just as a small boost at 200-400 mgs per week on a couple of different occasions. Kinda of young and inexperienced and before I stumbled on to these kinda places. Now I am taking the time to do my homework and read. I have actually spent countless hours on this site but the funny thing is there are so many opinions that you are kinda left sometimes wondering who knows better than who. I am studing though I won't make the same mistakes again. I know about the Clomid and Novaldex and HGH but I had read on here somewhere that the derma sustain could be used for PCT. Maybe I read it wrong that is why I asked. Also as I stated earlier I am kinda limited on gear selection at the moment so I have to make do. Maybe my circumstances will change though and I will be able to get things as needed . Thanks again SWOLE any other advice would be great.

HCG for pct not HGH!
 
buh_man06 said:
Thanks Swole for your input. A nice direct answer from someone looking to actually HELP> I took Test a couple a times just as a small boost at 200-400 mgs per week on a couple of different occasions. Kinda of young and inexperienced and before I stumbled on to these kinda places. Now I am taking the time to do my homework and read. I have actually spent countless hours on this site but the funny thing is there are so many opinions that you are kinda left sometimes wondering who knows better than who. I am studing though I won't make the same mistakes again. I know about the Clomid and Novaldex and human growth hormone - somatropin - but I had read on here somewhere that the derma sustain could be used for PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . Maybe I read it wrong that is why I asked. Also as I stated earlier I am kinda limited on gear selection at the moment so I have to make do. Maybe my circumstances will change though and I will be able to get things as needed . Thanks again SWOLE any other advice would be great.

everyone wants to help bro, if we seem like a tough crowd it's only because we want you to read up and come back with some evidence that you've done your homework

confusing h.g.h for h.c.g. is an example of not doing homework, just like 8and20 pointed out

we're all extremely helpful...and i doubt there's conflicting arguments on a simple test cycle

like i said, what type of test did you do and was it injectable?

your pc.t can be done with derma sustain, you won't need Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - or clomid

suggestion:

WK 1-10 600mg testosterone enanthate
WK 1-10 derma (the regular version, available at our sponsor's site...PPerformance)
WK 1-10 250iu of HC.G every week (read about this stuff)
WK 11-14 PCT with derma sustain (also available at PP)

very important: have an ANTI-E on hand, especially when on this much test and HC.G

this is as simple as it gets, the only conflicting arguments are what to stack with test or what other types of gear you should be on depending on your goals
 
Id stop the running if trying to bulk but thats just me. Id just concentrate on cleaning up your diet you cut the body fat.
 
perryscoon said:
uhh u do realize that HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - and human growth hormone - somatropin - are two totally different drugs right?

they are??? :confused:

i've been doing 500iu's of H.gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - twice weekly :worried:
 
swole said:
they are??? :confused:

i've been doing 500iu's of H.gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - - growth hormone (somatropin) - twice weekly :worried:
I hope not :rolleyes:
 
No fellas I guss that one escaped me about the difference between the two. I do apologize, I also guess I didn't realize it was all that mandatory to take either one in a cycle. That I guess is what this forum is for. I have learned alot on here. What are the two main differences?
 
buh_man06 said:
No fellas I guss that one escaped me about the difference between the two. I do apologize, I also guess I didn't realize it was all that mandatory to take either one in a cycle. That I guess is what this forum is for. I have learned alot on here. What are the two main differences?

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:chomp:
 
buh_man06 said:
No fellas I guss that one escaped me about the difference between the two. I do apologize, I also guess I didn't realize it was all that mandatory to take either one in a cycle. That I guess is what this forum is for. I have learned alot on here. What are the two main differences?
G-H is growth hormone. I'd stay away from peptides for now.

H-CG is an extract of the urine of pregnant women. It acts as a stimulant to some of the functions of your testes. It's use is purely optional during a cycle, arguably irrelevant. I've only ever run it while closing out a cycle and many don't even need it for that if coming of a pure testosterone cycle. It's recommended for use after a cycle that includes nor-testostosterone derivatives.
 
WK 1-10 600mg testosterone enanthate
WK 1-10 derma (the regular version, available at our sponsor's site...PPerformance)
WK 1-10 250iu of HC.G every week (read about this stuff)
WK 11-14 PCT - post cycle therapy - with derma sustain (also available at PP)

Dermacrine (regular version) and Sustain Alpha (derma sustain) are products that are very close in performence and ingredients.

Dermacrine is a topically applied product that can dramatically increase testosterone, while maintaining a safe balance of estrogen and DHT. Our cutting edge topical formula is the ultimate supplement for any man who wishes to increase energy, lean muscle, reduce fat, and optimize his sexual performance. Dermacrine is a well balanced formula that supports testosterone without compromising cholesterol levels, prostate or liver health.

Sustain Alpha is a topically applied product that can block estrogen and increase testosterone. Sustain Alpha is designed as a hormonal optimizer for long-term use. By safely and effectively blocking estrogens and stimulating the hormonal pathways, Sustain Alpha can help increase the primary male androgen – Testosterone. This may help increase energy, lean muscle, libido, and sexual performance.

As for HCG I have not read to many articles about it. But, i have talked to a few people who have used gear and they have told me it really does not do to much for you to notice a huge difference especially for the price you pay. HCG should be used if you are going on your 4th or 5th cycle because thats when your body will most need it. Your body can change to its surroundings on the outside, such as skin tanning to protect from sun burn. It also does the same, so it will get used to your cycles and be most lacking over time. If i am wrong please someone put their input in. This is jsut my opinion over the information i have read.
 
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