Starting RPN Havoc what else to take with it and how long.

[ogdlow]

Just got my RPN Havoc and just wanted to see what eles i should take with it and how long to take it for.

Right now I am taking protein and creatine with NO in it . SHould i stop the creatine (been on for 3weeks) before i start the Havoc?

Please advise.

 

[sheriff]

you'll wanna take a liver support pill while on and during post cycle a total of 8 weeks.. Im currently taking Cycle Support a all in 1 supp for this. Also Life Support is the same thing but its in capsule form and you will need a total of 4 bottles for a 2 month supply. But the Cycle Support is a powder form and tastes like DOODOO but has 60 servings where you would take 1 scoop in the morning and 1 at night.

Then i would take the Havoc like this
2/2/3/3 (this is 2 caps for the first and 2nd week and 3 caps for the 3rd and 4th week)

Then i would recommend you buying either Dermacrine Sustain or Post Cycle Support aka PCS for 4 weeks...
PCS 4/4/4/4 4 caps for 4 weeks

then some take Lean Extreme starting at the 3rd week
3/3/3/3

6oxo 4/3/2/1 or 3/2/1 starting at the 4th week of pcs (post cycle support)

still taking the liver support pills while on the cycle of havoc and during pct..

this is my advise which is what im doing and will be starting pct saturday with all the above supps i mentioned and a few more like ZMA, superpump250/sizeon, and I3C during pct. By the way i had really good results with havoc... Started out at 222 and tonight was 234. Strength has jumped alot which i dont try to go heavy anymore but did test the waters the other night... Waking up looking as if you had just finished working out.. Will lean you out if you eat pretty good and unreal pumps.

 

[ogdlow]

you'll wanna take a liver support pill while on and during post cycle a total of 8 weeks.. Im currently taking Cycle Support a all in 1 supp for this. Also Life Support is the same thing but its in capsule form and you will need a total of 4 bottles for a 2 month supply. But the Cycle Support is a powder form and tastes like DOODOO but has 60 servings where you would take 1 scoop in the morning and 1 at night.

Then i would take the Havoc like this
2/2/3/3 (this is 2 caps for the first and 2nd week and 3 caps for the 3rd and 4th week)

Then i would recommend you buying either Dermacrine Sustain or Post Cycle Support aka PCS for 4 weeks...
PCS 4/4/4/4 4 caps for 4 weeks

then some take Lean Extreme starting at the 3rd week
3/3/3/3

6oxo 4/3/2/1 or 3/2/1 starting at the 4th week of pcs (post cycle support)

still taking the liver support pills while on the cycle of havoc and during pct..

this is my advise which is what im doing and will be starting pct saturday with all the above supps i mentioned and a few more like ZMA, superpump250/sizeon, and I3C during pct. By the way i had really good results with havoc... Started out at 222 and tonight was 234. Strength has jumped alot which i dont try to go heavy anymore but did test the waters the other night... Waking up looking as if you had just finished working out.. Will lean you out if you eat pretty good and unreal pumps.

Wow that seems like a lot. I better do some more research on the post cycle support . Sounds like this is a must?

 

[bigdofba]

I've seen various threads about this on a few different sites. People are recommending an outrageous amount of supps to take with Havoc or Epistane. I really don't think all of this is necessary.

I've seen people run heavy AAS cycles with fewed supps then the ones recommended for a Havoc or Epistane cycle. The only thing I would worry about is your liver. It's pretty mild stuff.

 

[ogdlow]

Ok. SO im def. going to go out and get some liver support. I want to take pills. Is there any brand that is better or is more effective than an other?

BTW Sherrif. I appreciate your feedback. I am some what of a newbie and found this fourm very educational . Thanks.

 

[CrAzY Cat]

Ok. SO im def. going to go out and get some liver support. I want to take pills. Is there any brand that is better or is more effective than an other?

BTW Sherrif. I appreciate your feedback. I am some what of a newbie and found this fourm very educational . Thanks.

I would add some super cissus and fish oil for the joints.



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[ogdlow]

Ok. Just wanted to ask one more question. Should I only take Havoc for 4 weeks or do i want to take it longer???????

 

[ogdlow]

So.. I think that is should look like this.. Please advise...

Week 1: 20mg havoc + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support
Week 2: 20mg havoc + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support
Week 3: 30mg havoc + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support
Week 4: 40mg havoc + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support

Week 5: 4caps Post Cycle Support + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support
Week 6: 4caps POST cYCLE Support + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support
Week 7: 4caps Post Cycle Support + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support + 3caps Lean Extreme
Week 8: 4caps Post Cycle Support + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support + 3Caps Lean Extreme + 4caps 6oxo

Week 9: + 3caps Lean Extreme + 3caps 6oxo
week 10: + 3caps Lean Extreme + 2caps 6oxo

 

[bigdofba]

Have you ever used pro-hormones before?

I'm currently using Epistane. It's the first time I have ever tried a pro-hormone. So far it's making me feel sick all of the time but I can see some very mild effects as far as strength goes. It's also leaning me out a bit.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Epistane, from what I read, has been tested to have some impurity issues. Havoc has been tested to be much cleaner and more pure. Epi might be causing you some issues due to that.

-Legacy