Starting a New Cycle....

[zZzStarGazer]

I've been doing Var and Clen. The past couple of times. I like the results it cuts me up nicely, but there are very small results. I wanted to see if anyone had any other suggestions and perhaps a few results from people that tried tbol. I'm really only looking to cut up, I am a girl. Here's some of my stats I suppose
I'm 20
5'9 tall
140 pounds
I work out consistently 6 times a week and may take one week off every other month
My diet is healthy except weekends but I eat bad in moderation.

 

[Bruce]

startin tbol next week. my friend has been on for 2 weeks and has gained 10 pounds already. can't wait. i'll let u know once i try. also none of his weight is water.
50mg ed for 4 weeks of tbol. it doesn't work any longer after 4 weeks so thats all u do it for. get some primo or eq and run them for 12 weeks with the tbol at the begining.
eq 600 a week 12 weeks
tbol weeks 1-4 50mg ed

or
primo 600 a week 1-12
same tbol dose.
good luck. test would work as well but i figure you don't like test as u have only used var.

 

[zZzStarGazer]

startin tbol next week. my friend has been on for 2 weeks and has gained 10 pounds already. can't wait. i'll let u know once i try. also none of his weight is water.
50mg ed for 4 weeks of tbol. it doesn't work any longer after 4 weeks so thats all u do it for. get some primo or eq and run them for 12 weeks with the tbol at the begining.
eq 600 a week 12 weeks
tbol weeks 1-4 50mg ed

or
primo 600 a week 1-12
same tbol dose.
good luck. test would work as well but i figure you don't like test as u have only used var.

Woah there Mr. T. Is that for a male or female?
Like I said, I was looking to only cut up and not really gain mass.
According to a few resources on this site they were saying that going more than 30 mg for women would cause virility symptoms. I'd like to stay a woman.
I know this may be a bit complicated for any of you to help me out and I know I am roaming in a man's world. But I would definantly like some advice if anyone has a gf or wife or any cool resources that may help me for a woman.
Otherwise I could just stick to the var and clen and perhaps up the dosage this time.

 

[Bruce]

ah my bad i am a moron didn't see the F. excuse me for my stupidity. yes i have read even 10mg ed for the german women athletes. i do not know any females who have used anything but primo or var. i have seen pics of the german women from the 70's and they look spectatular. 20mg should be good for u but u could try 30mg ed. virilization in women is normally only seen with doses of 30 or higher. so try 20, 30 if u dont' get any sides. hope that helps

 

[zZzStarGazer]

That helps. =)
Thanks.

 

[Bruce]

good luck. btw courtneybcca on here does primo and looks fantastic. i don't know if she knows tbol but she may.

 

[zZzStarGazer]

Oooh! I would love to talk to her. Is she ever on?

 

[krishna]

Ya I'd look into primo. Check the women boards and see what they say. Not trying to kick you out of the men's boards (I'd rather see you stick around actually ), but they are probably more knowledgeable about the affects of different gears on the female body. Those are some sexy stats by the way.

 

[Bruce]

Oooh! I would love to talk to her. Is she ever on?

yes search the thread "do u guys think i am under 17%" she wrote it and u can contact her via pm

 

[zZzStarGazer]

Ya I'd look into primo. Check the women boards and see what they say. Not trying to kick you out of the men's boards (I'd rather see you stick around actually ), but they are probably more knowledgeable about the affects of different gears on the female body. Those are some sexy stats by the way.

Heyy thanks. You know I did check out the Women's boards and I was really dissapointed. The first sticky I saw were ones bashing steroids, so I just hiked my little hiney with the big boys.
I'm a pretty brave person I suppose.
Thanks. Krishna I appreciate the kind words.

 

[ruggermu]

Yeah the ladies who are knowledgable in this area are on and off here. We'll keep it bumped up here for ya and when one comes on you might be able to get some experienced (female) advice.

 

[skookum]

You would be far better served to stick with w/ Var and Primo. If you choose oral primo go for 50mgs ED, if IM use 100-200mgs EW. In final, clean up the weekend eating & you may be amazed at the end results. Just food for thought....

I've been doing Var and Clen. The past couple of times. I like the results it cuts me up nicely, but there are very small results. I wanted to see if anyone had any other suggestions and perhaps a few results from people that tried tbol. I'm really only looking to cut up, I am a girl. Here's some of my stats I suppose
I'm 20
5'9 tall
140 pounds
I work out consistently 6 times a week and may take one week off every other month
My diet is healthy except weekends but I eat bad in moderation.

 

[Bruce]

agreed courtney and some other girl from canada also chimes in. they will def be helpful. stick around your welcome here

 

[zZzStarGazer]

Thanks guy I really appreciate the help. It really means a lot to me.
Hopefully they will come round soon. Until then I may take a shot with primo and var... would it afftec the clen? I take it two weeks on and the leave two weeks off. is there some time i may need to leave a hiatus on it?

 

[ruggermu]

No, you can run the 2 on 2 off clen with primo and var no problem. Good Luck

 

[ruggermu]

Still no experienced ladies on here?

 

[Bruce]

primo great choice indeed. i do not no anything about clen

 

[shadowhunta]

errr, do you remember the female german athletes who used "low doses" of tbol? after the east german communist regime collapsed?

stick to the var, primo, and winny in LOW DOSES please. don't spoil your femininity.

IMO there is nothing wrong with a muscular, even thick female physique. however, when the thumb sized clit, deep voice and shoulder hair comes in it's just gross.

i know it has been said many times before, but remember, these drugs are the same ones they give women who undergo sex changes, and the androgenization is irreversible.

if that is you in the picture then you look very beautiful. don't spoil it for such transient satisfaction, which will ultimately fade long before the side effects.

-all IMO of course-

 

[krishna]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to shadowhunta again.

Agree with every word of this post.

 

[zZzStarGazer]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to shadowhunta again.

Agree with every word of this post.

what's this karma stuff anyway.

 

[krishna]

Look at your profile. You have karma that people have given you for posts you've made. You can give other people karma by clicking on the karma button underneath their flags if you agree or disagree with something someone says.

 

[x_muscle]

EQ at 400mg week with 15mg T-bol and clen.

little bit on te hardcore side though.

 

[zZzStarGazer]

errr, do you remember the female german athletes who used "low doses" of tbol? after the east german communist regime collapsed?

stick to the var, primo, and winny in LOW DOSES please. don't spoil your femininity.

IMO there is nothing wrong with a muscular, even thick female physique. however, when the thumb sized clit, deep voice and shoulder hair comes in it's just gross.

i know it has been said many times before, but remember, these drugs are the same ones they give women who undergo sex changes, and the androgenization is irreversible.

if that is you in the picture then you look very beautiful. don't spoil it for such transient satisfaction, which will ultimately fade long before the side effects.

-all IMO of course-

Let me give you an idea of what I am really looking to get to. I'll show a few random pics.
This girl is AWESOME. She's is built like a thoroughbred. This would be something I am striving for.

I had to show a side view of her legs. They are AMAZING. I want good powerful looking legs like these.

Now... I'm not too fond of her abs. They look terribly masculine so Ideally this girl would have more of the mid section physique I would want.

Ok, so after you stop drooling.. could you tell me that perhaps the best way to go was primo, var, and clen? And what doses. I would usually take a very small amount the last couple times. In fact I wouldn't even take a full ml on anything. I would use notches. For example. Clen I would go 1 notch and when I first do it I would shake. Should I anty it up just a little?
For the Var I would go 1 notch under the 1/2 ml. I definantly feel like I should raise it up a little but not sure what is appropriate.

 

[ruggermu]

Bump for female advice

 

[shadowhunta]

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