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Starting 1st Deca cycle- Clomid: When & how much?
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bbkingpin
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Who doesn't know what they're talking about? I never said anything about Winstrol because I've never taken it!!!!!!!!!!! I said ONLY to take Deca WITH Nolvadex. Why leave out Nolvadex????????????? Why????? Cause you're the fucking genius??? I've taken Deca with Nolv and no problems. Never thought about Winstrol but now all of you biochemists are saying, "don't take anti-estrogens to combat feminizing side-effects, instead take more steroids." Well, conventional wisdom has changed quite a bit lately. Whether you add winny or not, of which I have no opinion -- AND EXPRESSED NO OPINION ON ADDING WINNY -- Why not take Nolvadex -- AN ANTI-ESTROGEN -- to prevent, or as a precaution to, GYNO??? And why don't you not tell me when and whether I should answer someone's thread -- the "OWNER" as you call it!
Who doesn't know what they're talking about? I never said anything about Winstrol because I've never taken it!!!!!!!!!!! I said ONLY to take Deca WITH Nolvadex. Why leave out Nolvadex????????????? Why????? Cause you're the fucking genius??? I've taken Deca with Nolv and no problems. Never thought about Winstrol but now all of you biochemists are saying, "don't take anti-estrogens to combat feminizing side-effects, instead take more steroids." Well, conventional wisdom has changed quite a bit lately. Whether you add winny or not, of which I have no opinion -- AND EXPRESSED NO OPINION ON ADDING WINNY -- Why not take Nolvadex -- AN ANTI-ESTROGEN -- to prevent, or as a precaution to, GYNO??? And why don't you not tell me when and whether I should answer someone's thread -- the "OWNER" as you call it!
hookuprx
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Settle down crackhead. Winstrol and RU486 are effective against progesterone induced side effects - which are caused by drugs like Deca, Fina and Anadrol. Anti Estrogens or Anti-aromatase drugs are only helpful in combating estrogen related side effects. Sure Nolvadex can help for the water retention you might get from deca, but more importantly - it will not stop the advancement of gynocostima. In laymens terms: Nolvadex will not stop gyno in deca users. If you didnt have any problems, it was related to your luck and genitics as opposed to your Tamoxifen. Like I said. Understand the answers you give - before you give them. Hypothetically - This "ThreadOwner" could earn himself a nice pair of bitch tits, listening to people like yourself.
bbkingpin
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For the last time, there is no harm in taking Nolvadex with Deca. This threadowner will not suffer from listening to me. This topic was discussed in a recent thread:
"Progesterone blockers" and a reply by The_Eviscerator, who seems to know or have read something about it. Now, you say Nolvadex may be useful with Deca for water retention. Water retention caused by what? Estrogen?? If not estrogen, then how can an anti-estrogen, by definition, help in any other way than to combat estrogen. Are you now telling us that Nolvadex is a diuretic? I'm glad you are comfortable with your sense of superior intellect. The bottom line is that this whole shouting match came about because you felt the need to argue with my thread that said take Nolvadex with Deca because Nolv is cheap and why take chances. I don't know who the bigger idiot is: you, or me -- for even bothering with you. Here is the thread for anyone else who doesn't want to argue for the hell of it and who is not willing to just rely on hookuprx with his infinite knowledge.
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=101502&goto=newpost
Otherwise, just look under the recent thread re "Progesterone blockers"
For the last time, there is no harm in taking Nolvadex with Deca. This threadowner will not suffer from listening to me. This topic was discussed in a recent thread:
"Progesterone blockers" and a reply by The_Eviscerator, who seems to know or have read something about it. Now, you say Nolvadex may be useful with Deca for water retention. Water retention caused by what? Estrogen?? If not estrogen, then how can an anti-estrogen, by definition, help in any other way than to combat estrogen. Are you now telling us that Nolvadex is a diuretic? I'm glad you are comfortable with your sense of superior intellect. The bottom line is that this whole shouting match came about because you felt the need to argue with my thread that said take Nolvadex with Deca because Nolv is cheap and why take chances. I don't know who the bigger idiot is: you, or me -- for even bothering with you. Here is the thread for anyone else who doesn't want to argue for the hell of it and who is not willing to just rely on hookuprx with his infinite knowledge.
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=101502&goto=newpost
Otherwise, just look under the recent thread re "Progesterone blockers"
bbkingpin
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To ryvor
Why don't you just go the the thread I posted and read, okay? I took Nolv with deca and no gyno. If you go to the thread posted by me, read what The_Eviscerator said about what Bill Llewlyn (author of roid books) said about deca and gyno. According to Eviscerator, Llewlyn says progesterone causes estrogen which in turn causes gyno. I'm really beginning to appreciate hookuprx after doing a search of his threads. Why don't you do the same. After all, you guys seem like buddies. This is great! I haven't had this much fun since fifth grade.
And I'm not going to argue with hookuprx or his cohorts anymore. As they say, "Never argue with a fool, lest people may not be able to tell the difference."
Why don't you just go the the thread I posted and read, okay? I took Nolv with deca and no gyno. If you go to the thread posted by me, read what The_Eviscerator said about what Bill Llewlyn (author of roid books) said about deca and gyno. According to Eviscerator, Llewlyn says progesterone causes estrogen which in turn causes gyno. I'm really beginning to appreciate hookuprx after doing a search of his threads. Why don't you do the same. After all, you guys seem like buddies. This is great! I haven't had this much fun since fifth grade.
And I'm not going to argue with hookuprx or his cohorts anymore. As they say, "Never argue with a fool, lest people may not be able to tell the difference."
