just to clear things up, i was only joking. then ready to explode called me an asshole, so i returned his favor. i know it exists, it has happened to a buddy of mine. but i also know that a big majority of the people on hear are parrots. they hear someone say it, and think that is the rule. i think that taking AS is a big decision, and too many guys on here just what they heard someone else say because he has 400 posts!! so ready2explode has it happened to you on a deca and winny cycle? i would doubt it, just from the winny, and that is what the original post said, deca/winny cycle. he will be fine. so maybe you should read things a little better before you speak