started yesterday and need help

[04gtmatt]

so i started my first cycle on tuesday. i took 1/2 a cc of test 250 and the wed. i did the other half.next tuesday im going to start 1 cc a week for 8 weeks.i am a little curious on when it will kick in.im wanting to take winstrol on my 5th week then start taking 2 cc (1 test 1 winstrol).finish the test then go to winstrol.im a starting pitcher so i dont want to take to much.any suggestions.
im 510 175 lil gut but in good shape.been lifting for 3 years on and off
btw im consuming around 200grams of protien and about 3000 calories a day how many carbs should i eat.

 

[04gtmatt]

by the way im looking to get some mass on me at my bellybutton im 32 3/4 .is the test going to make me fat .i wanna lose the gut and get a upper section i got decent legs but want a chest and shoulders.i dont need to be ripped but getting lean would be nice

 

[04gtmatt]

all these fuckin reviews and no post. help me the fuck out

 

[boskers22]

ok lemme try n get this straight, i assume ur running test enanthate or cyp 250mg week 1-8 and winstrol from week 5-8? whats tha dosage on tha winny? also if u hav a longer acting ester test like test E or cyp i beleive ppl start to feel affects somewhere around 3-4 weeks. Also the test wont make u fat but it might bloat u n when u go off u'll loose tha bloat...u also dont mention nething about pct. This doesnt sound like u took netime what so ever 2 plan this out

 

[fcfmuaythai]

I know that for me, winstrol started to tear up my joints after about 3-4 weeks of taking it. And I mean seriously joint pain. As a pitcher, I don't think that's what you are looking for. maybe you can try var or tbol to substitute for the winny.

Or, add some deca to that mix and it will lube up your joints. 200mg/week is the therapeutic dose that I use to lube my joints, but that low a dose doesn't bloat me or show any muscle gain for that matter either.

and, as others have said, look into pct.

 

[BOWTECH]

Throw in some deca (for your joints) and you need to up your protein intake by another 200 grams

 

[04gtmatt]

well im felling pretty good write now joint wise but damn i get hornier than a mo fo
in class today i couldnt get it down every class period but i was looking at upping the protien to arond 300 and mabye cycleing creatine as well. would that be good or a waste or just stupid.i figured with test and creatine ill probally bloat up with all that water being retained.

 

[04gtmatt]

so does any one now of a over the counter that will keep my mass up but lower the bloat also im taking enantat qv 250 when will it totaly kick in afect cuz it aint nothing to great yet but i did just take my 2 cc yesterday

 

[axe3]

so does any one now of a over the counter that will keep my mass up but lower the bloat also im taking enantat qv 250 when will it totaly kick in afect cuz it aint nothing to great yet but i did just take my 2 cc yesterday

you will feel it kick in in a wk or 2. If you are taking 500 mg/wk of test I would recomend picking up some liquidex and running .5mg eod. This will keep the bloat off. At the same time you can get clomid for your pct

axe3

 

[04gtmatt]

so 3rd or 4th week itll kick ass or what