started trt

[redhawk01]

hello all,
2 weeks in, and looking to soak up tons of info, to someday step it up a notch.

 

[XMAN.]

good luck start reading

 

[Headholio]

Good luck and keep us posted on how its going for you. What are you on, how much and where did you get it?

 

[redhawk01]

Good luck and keep us posted on how its going for you. What are you on, how much and where did you get it?

what's up head?
doc has me on androgel at only 2 pumps per day. 1% version. only comes out to be 27mgs. i get retested next month to recheck test levels. went in at 250, was at 380 last fall. nothing i tried to boost test, worked. so hopefully this turns out. i also "fell" into a 3 month supply of testim, at 50mg tubes. don't want to mess with anything else, until i get the script dialed in. been reading tons, so i can figure out my next move. any suggestions? thanks

 

[sunnycali]

what's up head?
doc has me on androgel at only 2 pumps per day. 1% version. only comes out to be 27mgs. i get retested next month to recheck test levels. went in at 250, was at 380 last fall. nothing i tried to boost test, worked. so hopefully this turns out. i also "fell" into a 3 month supply of testim, at 50mg tubes. don't want to mess with anything else, until i get the script dialed in. been reading tons, so i can figure out my next move. any suggestions? thanks

I am on Test Cyp 200mg/ml injection that I do at home. My buddy was on Androgel but didn't like it as it was messy and seemed to take a while to rub in. I prefer the injection as I know it's going directly into the muscle. Thats just personal preferece. But good luck with the Gel if that is working for you..

Take Care

 

[Keith1]

If.you can go the injection route u will achieve more stable test levels and its quite a bit cheaper vs the transdermal

 

[Headholio]

I will be interested to hear how you like the Androgel. I know the advantages of shots, but sticking myself a couple times a week or more for the rest of my life doesn't sound so great to me.

 

[Keith1]

i understand what your saying. you could always give slin pins a try and back load them with .5cc
it takes more time to push the oil in but its literally like 0 pain and super easy. just food for thought

 

[redhawk01]

I am on Test Cyp 200mg/ml injection that I do at home. My buddy was on Androgel but didn't like it as it was messy and seemed to take a while to rub in. I prefer the injection as I know it's going directly into the muscle. Thats just personal preferece. But good luck with the Gel if that is working for you..

Take Care

my friend just got switched over from testim to 200mg inj. every two weeks. he got no where with testim gel. hopefully this works for him too. personally i think i'm under dosed. but i'll know for sure next month. i'm trying to persuade the doc to switch over to injection. i'm the first in his clinic to go on trt, so he's kind of a newbie as well.

 

[redhawk01]

If.you can go the injection route u will achieve more stable test levels and its quite a bit cheaper vs the transdermal

i agree 100% on that. gel is crazy $$. just found out my rx company is dropping testim as a trt replacement. so down to a couple of options.

 

[Keith1]

Every 2 weeks is to spread out. He would benefit more from 100mg a week. Less hormone fluctuations that way

 

[redhawk01]

Every 2 weeks is to spread out. He would benefit more from 100mg a week. Less hormone fluctuations that way

that's exactly what i told him. he felt awesome the first couple of days after first injection though. lol. i linked him to this site for more research.

 

[Keith1]

Ya I bet he felt better. Low dose test for me once a week is fine.

Is his doc doing the shots or is the guy at his house

 

[redhawk01]

Ya I bet he felt better. Low dose test for me once a week is fine.

Is his doc doing the shots or is the guy at his house

office visits for now

 

[redhawk01]

update:

i've been on androgel for the past two months, with no improvement. although my total test went from 258 to 551, i feel no different. unfortunately, my doc didn't retest other elements. we talked about switching to inject route. told him my thoughts from my research. i got my first pin today @100mg test cyp. will self inject every week. probably twice a week. somehow i feel all giddy inside. lol

prior to start of gel:

LH 3.9 (.8-7.6 mIU/ML)
FSH 5.4 (.7-11.1 mIU/ML)
TSH 1.45 (.4-5.0 mIU/ML)
PROLACTIN 6.2 (2.5-17.0 ng/ml)
ESTRADIOL 22 (.0-56.0pg/ml)
T4 FREE .91 (.8-1.6 NG/DL)

stats:
46 yo
200lbs
6'

 

[Headholio]

If you haven't felt any better by doubling your T levels, well into the normal range, maybe you have issues other than low T causing your symptoms?

 

[redhawk01]

If you haven't felt any better by doubling your T levels, well into the normal range, maybe you have issues other than low T causing your symptoms?

you could be right. if in fact he didn't do a full work up of blood tests, like i thought he did, there may be some other issue. maybe he didn't give me all the results. he did tell me there was probably 5-10 different tests, to rule out some things, before he put me on the gel. i'll have to do more digging. hopefully i can get a more comprehensive blood test when i go back for a follow up.
i'm almost positive, i'll be seeing an endo after that.

 

[XMAN.]

just doubling ur initial low testosterone doesn't mean it gona solve ur problems u may need more some ppl need up to 800 0r even 1000 ng's to start feeling good it's an individual thing it's not about the numbers specially the conventional range which puts the 800 mark as the top end and that's absolutely wrong, many ppl live with 1200 ng/dl or even 1500 ng/dl and they're fine and happy, i'm not encouraging anyone to up their dose unless needed but to make u understand that u have to take it by feeling. it's nice that u switched to injections i say bare with it give it some time and ur gona improve later on, ur doctor may even increase ur dose to 150mg or 200mg/w if needed, most ppl take months to reach their sweet spot.

 

[redhawk01]

just doubling ur initial low testosterone doesn't mean it gona solve ur problems u may need more some ppl need up to 800 0r even 1000 ng's to start feeling good it's an individual thing it's not about the numbers specially the conventional range which puts the 800 mark as the top end and that's absolutely wrong, many ppl live with 1200 ng/dl or even 1500 ng/dl and they're fine and happy, i'm not encouraging anyone to up their dose unless needed but to make u understand that u have to take it by feeling. it's nice that u switched to injections i say bare with it give it some time and ur gona improve later on, ur doctor may even increase ur dose to 150mg or 200mg/w if needed, most ppl take months to reach their sweet spot.

Good point Xman. Thanks. I'm just gonna chill on this dose for a bit. Check after 5-6 weeks.