Started new bulk cycle, please critique

[Nighthawkk]

Just started another winter bulker...I had started a similar one a few months ago but had to stop about two weeks in due to a serious car accident. Anyways, here it is, started 3 days ago:

Week 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED (thai)
Week 1-10 Test Enanthate (Iranian) 500mg every 3 days
Week 1-10 Deca (Norma) 400mg every 3 days

The dbols are split into 4 daily doses (10,10,10,5 mg) and the jabs are every 3 days mixed in same syringe.

Current stats: 5'9", 198lbs, 13%bf, training 6+ years

Any criticisms/suggestions/additions? Plan to use HCG at some point midway, and normal PCT (nolva, clomid, trib/avena) about 3 weeks following last jab. Not sure which ancillaries will be necessary, I tend to get puffy nips from the dbol only as I've used test and deca before with no problems at these doses.

 

[guards]

looks good to me....even though i don't like deca

 

[JAYMAN014]

Just my opinion, If you have a good history with recovery then leave it as is, I myself have a tough time recovering with deca, so like to cut it out 2 weeks before test so its cleared from your system for post cycle. Im sure some other guys will give you ideas though, Good luck, and cycle looks good. Like to see how it comes out.

 

[jubei]

No good my man. If you run it that way, you will have deca being the last drug in your system. I would run the test AT LEAST 2 weeks past deca. Just my 2 cents.

P.S. Your penis will thank me.

 

[flex2win]

No good my man. If you run it that way, you will have deca being the last drug in your system. I would run the test AT LEAST 2 weeks past deca. Just my 2 cents.

P.S. Your penis will thank me.

This is good advice right here...i just ran similar cycle, cut deca out 3 weeks before the end of my test...very good move imo...this is a great bulking cycle...

 

[rjl296]

do what jubei said, plus id run prop instead of enathate for 3 weeks

 

[jubei]

I believe short esters are far superior to long esters. So many advantages with the only disadvantages being more frequent injections.

 

[Nighthawkk]

No good my man. If you run it that way, you will have deca being the last drug in your system. I would run the test AT LEAST 2 weeks past deca. Just my 2 cents.

P.S. Your penis will thank me.

Ok, so what I'm getting from this is.... cut Deca out 3 weeks prior to end, and possibly substitute Test Prop for Enan for those last three weeks so PCT can commence immediately afterwards to recover natural test levels/libido? Also, any possibility of adding Winny during that time, as I've seen some people do before? thanks

 

[rjl296]

Ok, so what I'm getting from this is.... cut Deca out 3 weeks prior to end, and possibly substitute Test Prop for Enan for those last three weeks so PCT can commence immediately afterwards to recover natural test levels/libido? Also, any possibility of adding Winny during that time, as I've seen some people do before? thanks

yes to all question.
but i hat winny

 

[Nighthawkk]

Also what ancillaries should I consider using.....only have nolv and clomid on hand, and a few Arimidex tabs lying around. Like I mentioned, I am mostly gyno prone to the dbol.

 

[Judo Tom]

i wouldnt worry about the arimidex.. keep the nolva on hand though if gyno pops up...

and i would definately cut the deca a bit sooner and run the test longer or switch to prop but the sooner the deca leaves the better imo cause that can take a while to recover from...

also if you have never used deca or tren before than plan on the possibility of a longer recovery than a normal 4 week pct.. better to be safe than sorry..

but that is a solid looking cycle bro!

 

[jubei]

You got it. No need for winny.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Solid advice guys, thanks...K to all. Another question though--when to add HCG (if at all), how much, and in what doses? Thanks.

 

[jubei]

Some say to run hcg through out the cycle at 500iu every sat and sun. Others say to use it while androgen levels are still high for 2-3 weeks. Its really up to you. Do a search.

 

[Nighthawkk]

^ for more opinions

 

[Nighthawkk]

Oh...just noticed there is a mistake above. Not administering 500mg/400mg every 3 days; rather it is 250/200 E3D making for 500mg test and 400mg deca EW. The other doses would obviously be absurd for someone my size at this point

 

[argent]

I was going to say that is a shitload. It looks a lot better now that you cleared that up.

 

[Nighthawkk]

I was going to say that is a shitload. It looks a lot better now that you cleared that up.

Yea seriously. I have never gone above 500mg Test per week, I still gain very well off it. So "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" lol

 

[argent]

It was real close to 3g of gear the way it was written.

 

[Nighthawkk]

I'm going to re-post it here just to clarify, this is the ACTUAL cycle, not the first posted one

Week 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED (thai)
Week 1-10 Test Enanthate (Iranian) 250mg every 3 days
Week 1-10 Deca (Norma) 200mg every 3 days

Arimidex and Nolv on hand
Nolv, Clomid, Trib/Avena PCT to follow

 

[Nighthawkk]

^again