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Stand Up.. Do Somthing!!!

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I want each of you who care... to write a letter or send an e-mail to The White House, your senator and congressman asking to send US troops to Zimbabwe to put a stop to Robert Mugabes marxist terror regieme.

I could post more articles on what is happening.. but I think all of us who care already know.

DO NOT PUT THIS OFF ANY LONGER... I just mailed out 4.

I will be following up with e-mails.

If you need to know the addys.. just pm me with your state.. I will do the leg work. Fuck it.. I will buy you the stamps if that is a problem.. you just write the letters.
 
dballer said:
I want each of you who care... to write a letter or send an e-mail to The White House, your senator and congressman asking to send US troops to Zimbabwe to put a stop to Robert Mugabes marxist terror regieme.

Yes, let's send Americans over to Africa to solve their problems.

Worked big in Somalia didn't it?
 
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MattTheSkywalker said:


Yes, let's send Americans over to Africa to solve their problems.

Worked big in Somalia didn't it?

we have no problem lending a helping hand in the east.... but they are not killing europeans.
 
Honestly it's a shame.
In 2 years we will be dealing with starvation due to the fact that all of the Experienced White farmers have been kicked out, leaving untrained farm workers.
I know the reason we ignore africa for the most part is due to the fact that they have no resources or political interest to the US.

Sad, but true...
Unless a liberal Democrate is in the Whitehouse, it probably won't happen..
 
Why don't we send troops to Rawanda and Colombia.

At some point, the US needs to stop being the school-yard bully.

Shit happens, really bad shit happens. But going to war every time something bad happens will only earn us more terrorism on our soil.

Besides, we have no vested interest in that country.
 
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dballer said:


we have no problem lending a helping hand in the east.... but they are not killing europeans.

Yes, and soon there will be more people starving in Africa. haven't we seen that for the last few decades? Pictures of skinny African kids?

When it was Ethiopia we had fund raising drievs and high profile concerts like Live Aid. When it was Somalia, Americans went there and got killed. Now it is Zimbabwe. Nothing has changed.

If you are talking about Bosnia, etc., we did that for oil reasons. We were largely protecting Muslims.

You don't want a critique? Don't post.
 
I figured you read the "for those who care part" I posted another thread a few days ago which was a based discussion on this topic. I posted this one because alot of people seemed intrested in this cause.

We are not protecting Muslims either.. we send 4 billion a year to Israel every year to help with their holocaust against Muslims.
 
I'll write one for you, but then you have to write one to your congressman asking for better laws protecting gays and their lifestyle...Quid Pro Quo. Heh heh heh

Ranger
 
The Ranger said:
I'll write one for you, but then you have to write one to your congressman asking for better laws protecting gays and their lifestyle...Quid Pro Quo. Heh heh heh

Ranger


I live in Atlanta dude... it does not get any better than this. The city puts up pro-gay banners on the street!!!

If you are gay.. move to Atlanta.. I think if you are gay and you live in Atlanta you get diplomatic immunity.
 
If 1,300 black guys owned 70 percent of the arable land in America, you'd be sticking up for their rights as well, right? right?

*deafening silence*

Who gives a shit? Things like this happen all the time on a scale thousands of time greater.

And don't tell me you care about the poor Zimbabweans because I know none really give a flying fuck.
 
Doktor Bollix said:
If 1,300 black guys owned 70 percent of the arable land in America, you'd be sticking up for their rights as well, right? right?

*deafening silence*

Who gives a shit? Things like this happen all the time on a scale thousands of time greater.

And don't tell me you care about the poor Zimbabweans because I know none really give a flying fuck.

What the fuck do you know about what I care about???



Ranger.. I know.. I figured you would laugh at that post.
 
Doktor Bollix said:
If 1,300 black guys owned 70 percent of the arable land in America, you'd be sticking up for their rights as well, right? right?

*deafening silence*

Who gives a shit? Things like this happen all the time on a scale thousands of time greater.

And don't tell me you care about the poor Zimbabweans because I know none really give a flying fuck.

What in the name of God do you know about what I give a flying fuck about????



Ranger.. I know.. I figured you would laugh at that post.
 
dballer said:

We are not protecting Muslims either.. we send 4 billion a year to Israel every year to help with their holocaust against Muslims.

Read it again.

I said in Bosnia we were largely protecting Muslims.
 
hey I was doing some reading on zimbabwe and prior to Mugabe's rule the whites pulled the same shit that the blacks are doing now. It doesn't make it right, but that's the mindset of the black people over there.
 
The Nature Boy said:
hey I was doing some reading on zimbabwe and prior to Mugabe's rule the whites pulled the same shit that the blacks are doing now. It doesn't make it right, but that's the mindset of the black people over there.

Yup, it's cyclic.

The bosnian's did it to the serbs, because the serbs did it to the....(lather, rinse, repeat)
 
The Nature Boy said:
true. ain't the world great?

Yeah it is.
I do prefer the cyclic nature of things. It keeps me from guessing what's gonna happen next.

Let me glance into my hypothetical looking glass:

We send in troops to help the white man in Zimbabwe. We arm and train them. They take over in 3 years. In five years the black man from Zimbabwe (now renamed to Samaria) becomes the victim, but also secretly plots terrorist acts against the US.

3 years later, some yokel in the US media "discovers" that the white man in Samaria in oppressing the blacks.

We send in troops to train, arm and advise the blacks. The blacks win and rename Samaria to Gilesh.

See where this leads???
 
I think the whole arming and training thing needs to be re-examined. It really doesn't work in the long run if you ask me. But what do I know.
 
The Nature Boy said:
I think the whole arming and training thing needs to be re-examined. It really doesn't work in the long run if you ask me. But what do I know.

It get's our boys experience in the field though.

But giving other people *your* weapons is never a good thing.
 
well then we need to arm and train stable governments, if there is such a thing. Getting involved in civil wars and such usually blows up in our face. Plus it's kinda hard to predict the repercussions of such moves years after we do them (I know, typical liberalist thinking, blah blah).
 
Here's more: http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/africa/08/12/zimbabwe.speech/index.html

Mugabe reforms 'threaten disaster'
August 12, 2002 Posted: 2:09 PM EDT (1809 GMT)

Mugabe insists a deadline remains in force for white farmers to quit their land


HARARE, Zimbabwe -- Opponents of Robert Mugabe's controversial land reforms are warning of a "humanitarian catastrophe" in southern Africa after the Zimbabwean president told white farmers they must quit their land.

Mugabe said the government would not back down on its controversial policy, despite domestic opposition and sanctions being imposed by western nations, and that the August 8 deadline for whites to leave their farms remained in place.

In his first speech to the nation since the order came into effect, he said: "No enemy is too big or too powerful to be fought and vanquished for this land. Our people are the principal owners of this land. We will not budge."

But Adrian Laguna, spokesman for the Freedom For Zimbabwe campaign, told CNN: "The farming community has been devastated by the policies of Robert Mugabe and his regime, and... we now have six million people facing starvation

"There is a humanitarian catastrophe emerging in southern Africa, since Zimbabwe exports food to Malawi, Zambia and other neighbouring countries and those states will not be able to feed their populations." (Q&A: Land reform)

Mugabe's government had ordered 2,900 of the remaining 4,500 white commercial farmers to surrender their lands to black settlers without compensation by midnight (2200 GMT) last Thursday.

The reform programme, which has led to a tightening of Western sanctions against Mugabe and his top aides, is being driven to a climax amid a worsening regional food crisis.

Up to 13 million people, close to half of them in Zimbabwe, could starve over the next six months as a result of drought and political mismanagement across six countries in the region, the U.N. World Food Program has warned.

Jenni Williams, spokeswoman for the Justice for Agriculture pressure group in Zimbabwe, told Reuters news agency she was disappointed that Mugabe had offered nothing that would help avert the threatened famine.

"The reprieve expected from the speech did not show. It is unfortunate that, coming from Mugabe's side, there has been no acceptance of responsibility (for the food crisis)," she said.

Unidentified farmers listen to speakers at the annual congress of the Zimbabwe Commercial Farmers Union in Harare
"We as farmers accept that land must be redistributed, but we do feel our political leaders must understand that in land reform you can't compromise production or you will have starving Zimbabweans," she said.

The opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) said in a statement Mugabe's land policy had cost 70,000 black farmworkers their jobs and had affected 250,000 dependants.

"Mugabe's fast-track land resettlement programme is not only defined by its illegality and its violence, but also by its crude short-sightedness and political opportunism," it said.

Colin Cloete, president of the Commercial Farmers Union (CFU), said it appeared Mugabe had toned down his rhetoric, but that his message on redistribution had remained consistent. "It could have been worse than that," he told Reuters.

Cloete and other farm sources said they were confused by Mugabe's comment that no farmer would be left landless, adding that many had been ordered to surrender all their land.

Mugabe said he was pursuing a "one farmer, one farm policy" with a place for "well-meaning white farmers who wish to pursue a farming career as loyal citizens of this country."

Vernon Nicolle, one of the farmers resisting eviction, told Reuters Mugabe had not sent a clear message to farmers or to the self-styled war veterans waiting to take over abandoned farms.

"I know of a big percentage of farmers who have left their farms, who have been forced to evacuate or who have been physically pushed off their farms, who had only one farm."

Ben Zietsman, of the Commercial Farmers Union which represents 4,000 white farmers across the country, said much uncertainty remained.

"There is some relief that it seems there won't be a mass avalanche of evictions," he said.

Mugabe insists the land seizures are meant to right the wrongs of British colonialism, which left 70 percent of the best farmland in white hands.

Farming sources estimate 40 percent of the farmers have obeyed Mugabe's instruction to hand their land over, but others have been holding on in the hope of a reprieve from the country's courts or from Mugabe.
 
Fuck that, I'd salt my lands if someone was trying to do that to me.

Then I'd destroy my farm equipment.
 
Code said:
Fuck that, I'd salt my lands if someone was trying to do that to me.

Then I'd destroy my farm equipment.

change of tune.


I think that the people who are doing shit like that are being killed. The people who try to help them are going to jail.
 
the same shit happened to the black people. in fact large numbers of blacks were "repopulated" to different locations because each time they moved black people to "reservations" they found out that those reservations were fertile lands for growing crops. so it's really history repeating itself.
 
Give the issue to the UN.

I'm sure they'll give the white's a new country by dividing another nation in half.

Plan on the land they get hating something about the white's that are moving in, religion, race, philosophy, pac-man score etc.
 
Doktor Bollix said:


If 1,300 black guys owned 70 percent of the arable land in America, you'd be sticking up for their rights as well, right? right?

Those 1300 black guys would have the NAACP, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson fighting for them, they don't need someone posting on elite fitness fighting for their rights. These people in Zimbabwe have nothing, their own government is against them- which is why Dballer feels the need to post this and seek help for them....


Doktor Bollix said:

Who gives a shit? Things like this happen all the time on a scale thousands of time greater.

And don't tell me you care about the poor Zimbabweans because I know none really give a flying fuck.

And for what reason would you question Dballer's reasoning for posting this thread if he didnt really care.
If this was happening in America to the 1300 black guys Im sure you would.
 
Thanks Vic.. but after reading his post I figured out what kind of a person I was dealing with.. so I just dropped it.
 
The Nature Boy said:
the same shit happened to the black people. in fact large numbers of blacks were "repopulated" to different locations because each time they moved black people to "reservations" they found out that those reservations were fertile lands for growing crops. so it's really history repeating itself.

and the american colonists did it to the native americas...


they called it manifest destiny... it was the destiny of the colonists to control the americas from coast to coast.

Maybe it is the destiny of the blacks over there? Maybe god told them so.

Hey... if i can find a passage in the bible that says it is okay will you support the blacks?

i chose my new avatar with you in mind dballer. i hope you like it.
 
Code said:
Give the issue to the UN.

I'm sure they'll give the white's a new country by dividing another nation in half.

Plan on the land they get hating something about the white's that are moving in, religion, race, philosophy, pac-man score etc.

Oh bullshit, If the U.N. was given jurisdiction over Zimbabwe the whole mess would be fixed in a week. Pretty soon Mugabe and the white farmers would be playing tee ball on the fields where dead bodies once lied.

The biggest problem the whites would then have is whether they should continue to racistly refer to the blacks as ‘black people’ or if they should change to the more culturally sensitive term of ‘African-Africans’

You conservatives don’t want that though, you want war because you own stock in the military complex, and because your impotent penises can only be aroused by the idea of black people committing violence on defenseless white people.

For shame
 
your country having financial interests or not should not matter,canada doesnt have interest in many places and we send peace keepers out,its the morality behind the actions that matter,this could turn into genocide if allowed to progress,its not right at all someone must do soemthing,if i was a american id be writing like crazy,i know my government dont have the means right now so we are fucked
 
Puc said:


i chose my new avatar with you in mind dballer. i hope you like it.


Do you remember that kid Corky from the show Life Goes On???.....
 
The Canadian Oak said:
your country having financial interests or not should not matter,canada doesnt have interest in many places and we send peace keepers out,its the morality behind the actions that matter,this could turn into genocide if allowed to progress,its not right at all someone must do soemthing,if i was a american id be writing like crazy,i know my government dont have the means right now so we are fucked

Oak.. it is thoughts like these that set you apart from people like Puc... well that and you have morals. But keep your head on straight.. keep moving in the right direction. Never let anyone pull you from the right direction.
 
The Nature Boy said:
the same shit happened to the black people. in fact large numbers of blacks were "repopulated" to different locations because each time they moved black people to "reservations" they found out that those reservations were fertile lands for growing crops. so it's really history repeating itself.


bumping what I said.
 
dballer said:


Oak.. it is thoughts like these that set you apart from people like Puc... well that and you have morals. But keep your head on straight.. keep moving in the right direction. Never let anyone pull you from the right direction.

lol... mommy look at the rednecks, they are circling the wagons!

did you ever read what i wrote about you in the "worst at flames/comebacks" thread dballer?

it was something about how you always run around seeking affirmation from others whenever you flame someone. hmmmm.... damn i am an acute son of a bith.
 
Puc said:


lol... mommy look at the rednecks, they are circling the wagons!

did you ever read what i wrote about you in the "worst at flames/comebacks" thread dballer?

it was something about how you always run around seeking affirmation from others whenever you flame someone. hmmmm.... damn i am an acute son of a bith.

no.. did not read that...

Did you read the boards about 6 months ago when you were molesting a teenage girl?
 
and saying you have no morals is not a flame.. that is pure and simple fact.
 
lol...

that was right about the time you cried like a little bitch to the rest of the board when i hurt your feelings.

mommy look! the rhino is out of the cage!
 
I did not cry. But I remember what you said. I will not forget it either.

Did you ever have a tummy tuck??? Did it hurt???
 
ya see dballer, that is quality flame...

my words enrage you... so i have power over you.

nothing you say phases me.

Did I have a tummy tuck? yup! did i have it redone? yup! am i angry about it? nope.

now, please, go fix a car or something. i have a meeting on the other side of town so i am going to be gone for a couple hours.

it'll be with black people. damn, i love black people.
 
nothing wrong with that.

you did make me mad.. I am not mad anymore..per se..



(How does someone come to a fitness board.. but yet still have the guts to say.. I had a tummy tuck.. I am too lazy to work-out?)
 
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