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bigdave2628

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I bought the cyclo-tren & havoc and have been taking them for the past 16 days. But I have not noticed or experienced anything positive off of them. Any advice?
 
Have you actually tried to lift a heavier weight?

We need to know your diet and training, as well as your stats(ht, wt, age, training experience) before we can help you.
 
I bought the cyclo-tren & havoc and have been taking them for the past 16 days. But I have not noticed or experienced anything positive off of them. Any advice?

Havoc took about 3 weeks for me to see any results. But man when it kicked in my strength went through the roof, it was such a great feeling.

Also what doseage are you running?
 
I'm 6 1' 280 lbs 30yrs old. Im already extremley strong have a 500lb bench press 800lb deadlift and 650lb squat all raw. Current diet is 400 grams of protein all from chicken or steak and get most of my carbs from veggies. Workout like a mad man when I hit the gym if thats not how you workout then dont bother.
 
What doses are you running?

You'd be one of the few people not seeing anything from CycloTren and maybe the first to not get anything out of Havoc.

-Legacy
 
I'm 6 1' 280 lbs 30yrs old. Im already extremley strong have a 500lb bench press 800lb deadlift and 650lb squat all raw. Current diet is 400 grams of protein all from chicken or steak and get most of my carbs from veggies. Workout like a mad man when I hit the gym if thats not how you workout then dont bother.

What's your Bf%? I assume it's pretty high.

The problem is, you are a fucking beast. You are a big boy. You need to take a higher dose bro.

what dose you at now? At your size, 40mg havoc and 140mg cyclotren is what you need at minimum. A moderate dose of mild compounds isn't going to give shit to a guy that can bench 500 pounds.
 
BF% is 20%. Im taking 1 havoc and 1 cyclo-tren in the morning before breakfast, and another dosage of 1 havoc and 1 cyclo-tren before my workout which is about 10hrs after my first dosage.
 
What's your Bf%? I assume it's pretty high.

The problem is, you are a fucking beast. You are a big boy. You need to take a higher dose bro.

what dose you at now? At your size, 40mg havoc and 140mg cyclotren is what you need at minimum. A moderate dose of mild compounds isn't going to give shit to a guy that can bench 500 pounds.

Yes this man is m type of man. Fits right in with my stile. Only thing is. He lifts more then me so I may have to ban him lol joking.

welcome to the site bro.
 
BF% is 20%. Im taking 1 havoc and 1 cyclo-tren in the morning before breakfast, and another dosage of 1 havoc and 1 cyclo-tren before my workout which is about 10hrs after my first dosage.

YOU NEED TO UP YOUR DOSES BIG TIME!

I take 3 caps Cyclo and 3 caps Havoc per day and im ALOT smaller than you :-P

I split them up about every 5 hours...AM, early afternoon, evening.

-Legacy
 
Yes this man is m type of man. Fits right in with my stile. Only thing is. He lifts more then me so I may have to ban him lol joking.

welcome to the site bro.


Let's ban wulfgar, airsmith2k and needsize too. We can't have bigger guys on the board than you. What kind of place is this anyways? Then again, I don't know exactly how big you are, I've never seen your ht/wt stats bro. What you rockin at these days? But, I know these 3 are big boyz.



Big dave,

Up the dose man. You gotta go atleast 4 caps of each for your size. I'd dare say even 5 caps, possibly even 6 of each might be what it takes to get any sort of noticable gains at your size and strength.
 
BF% is 20%. Im taking 1 havoc and 1 cyclo-tren in the morning before breakfast, and another dosage of 1 havoc and 1 cyclo-tren before my workout which is about 10hrs after my first dosage.

You need to be taking around 40-50 mgs of havoc and around 140 of cyclotren bro.The dose you are taking is for guys under 200 lbs.
 
I have been taking 3 capsules of each three times a day for the past 6 days. And have noticed a big difference in tightness of my muscles and it feels like Im pumped all day. Is that due to the increase in the havoc or cyclo-tren?
 
I'm 6 1' 280 lbs 30yrs old. Im already extremley strong have a 500lb bench press 800lb deadlift and 650lb squat all raw. Current diet is 400 grams of protein all from chicken or steak and get most of my carbs from veggies. Workout like a mad man when I hit the gym if thats not how you workout then dont bother.

I didnt think anyone here benched heavier than me :worried:

lol...welcome to EF bro :supercool
 
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