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zeplin7464

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the deco only cycle is going good so far...on week three and seeing some noticable gains and stregnth w/o deca dick so far...knock on wood. any way i have been having some other problems which may be situational but seem to have started around the same time as i started my gear. ive had constant headaches, which arnt horrible but annoying and alleviated with ibuprophen, and some stomach/gastrointestinal discomfort along with the headaches ranging from excess gas/nausea/always needing to piss and shit? seems wierd, has anyone had any similar issues with aas, or does anyone have any idea to what this could be if it is even related? help much appreciated. thanks bros :worried: Im gunna see a doctor if it persists another week.
 
Add winstrol immediately.

One of the most popular cycles around from people I know of is deca + winstrol.

yeah, I came from the school of "Test W/ Every Cycle" thing too, but deca/winstrol fucking works.

Keep proviron on hand just in case you need a boost.
 
and it has helped with my back issues tremendously, and i have some leterozol on hand...adding more shit int he mix like winstrol will help with sides?
 
AAP said:
Add winstrol immediately.

One of the most popular cycles around from people I know of is deca + winstrol.

yeah, I came from the school of "Test W/ Every Cycle" thing too, but deca/winstrol fucking works.

Keep proviron on hand just in case you need a boost.
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the thing is im worried these sides im experiencing are related to my liver, so im not sure if winstrol would be wuch a good idea? the proviron is a possibility, should i get some of that?
 
zeplin7464 said:
the thing is im worried these sides im experiencing are related to my liver, so im not sure if winstrol would be wuch a good idea? the proviron is a possibility, should i get some of that?
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You should be asking your Dr. about this. From my understanding you orginally posted in another thread that you started: "while taking my deca only cycle I will be under the care of a sports medicine Dr."

Any reason you're asking us about this instead of the Dr.?

I actually found the post in question:

As you state below:

Not doing it only to get size and strength but also to ease the pain of a fucked up back. additionally i will be under the care of a licensed doctor of sports medicine, who in fact told me in these exact words " the deca will help your back and be magic at 2oo mg since your androgen recpetors are clean, and only add test if you want t become one big zit!" im already face acne ridden by the way, well luckily have it under control as we speak, knock on wood.

What gives?
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
You should be asking your Dr. about this. From my understanding you orginally posted in another thread that you started: "while taking my deca only cycle I will be under the care of a sports medicine Dr."

Any reason you're asking us about this instead of the Dr.?

I actually found the post in question:

As you state below:

Not doing it only to get size and strength but also to ease the pain of a fucked up back. additionally i will be under the care of a licensed doctor of sports medicine, who in fact told me in these exact words " the deca will help your back and be magic at 2oo mg since your androgen recpetors are clean, and only add test if you want t become one big zit!" im already face acne ridden by the way, well luckily have it under control as we speak, knock on wood.

What gives?
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what gives is that im not paying him for this advice, and i dont think he has done as much juice as you guys....so i dont want to keep bombarding him with questions and my self induced paranoia every day, so ive come to ask u guys, who are obviously aas pros...and btw ive just taken everyones advcie and added test e.
 
zeplin7464 said:
and btw ive just taken everyones advcie and added test e.
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that is the first clever thing i have heard you say. good man. how much you on a week? how far are you into your cycle?
 
zeplin7464 said:
what gives is that im not paying him for this advice, and i dont think he has done as much juice as you guys....so i dont want to keep bombarding him with questions and my self induced paranoia every day, so ive come to ask u guys, who are obviously aas pros...and btw ive just taken everyones advcie and added test e.
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If you're under the care of a Dr. you're paying for his advice. You have every right to question him on everything time and time again I think that you made that up to be totally honest.

So let me get this straight, Everyone here told you to take test alone or with the deca you were dead set on taking no matter what, and you said you would run the deca alone because this is what you're Dr. told you to do.

Now, you're having problems and listening to us over your Dr.? I don't understand? It is because he has not "done any juice?" If that's the case why didn't you seek a different Dr. whom could have helped your back without the use of AAS?

Here's what I think:

I think you were never under the care of any Dr. I think your "buddies" told you not to run test and to run deca alone. Then you came here and flamed all of us telling us that we were "ridiculous" for telling you you shouldn't use deca alone as a first cycle. Now you're having problems and coming to us for help and not going to see your Dr.? Sounds like the biggest pile of BS ever. You wanted to do gear, and you wanted to run deca against everything we told you.

I personally respect every memebr here and try to help them as much as I possibly can. If I can't answer a question I will point that member to another member who can help. I answered all of you PM's, gifted you a plat membership and still tried to help you out. Now what do you think?
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
If you're under the care of a Dr. you're paying for his advice. You have every right to question him on everything time and time again I think that you made that up to be totally honest.

So let me get this straight, Everyone here told you to take test alone or with the deca you were dead set on taking no matter what, and you said you would run the deca alone because this is what you're Dr. told you to do.

Now, you're having problems and listening to us over your Dr.? I don't understand? It is because he has not "done any juice?" If that's the case why didn't you seek a different Dr. whom could have helped your back without the use of AAS?

Here's what I think:

I think you were never under the care of any Dr. I think your "buddies" told you not to run test and to run deca alone. Then you came here and flamed all of us telling us that we were "ridiculous" for telling you you shouldn't use deca alone as a first cycle. Now you're having problems and coming to us for help and not going to see your Dr.? Sounds like the biggest pile of BS ever. You wanted to do gear, and you wanted to run deca against everything we told you.

I personally respect every memebr here and try to help them as much as I possibly can. If I can't answer a question I will point that member to another member who can help. I answered all of you PM's, gifted you a plat membership and still tried to help you out. Now what do you think?
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I really am under the care of a doctor...hes not an md, so he cant prescribe medecation, but he is a well respected d.c/sports medicine and hormone replacement thereapy specialist. he has done his fair shareof juice in his day since he is a bodyvuilder as well, and i pay him as my chiropractor, he gives me this other advice on the side on the down low. when he first showed me how to inject and did it for me the first time he obviously didnt charge for my visit, because it wasnt legit. when i have sports injuries he charges and my visits are documented. when i have questions or concerns about the juice he recomended for my back, he doesnt charge me, as he is a family friend. so therefore i feel i am bothering him; he recomended a deca only cycle w/ proviron if i could get it..HE DIDNT ORDER IT. with that being said i am trying to limit the amount of phone calls i give him every day about ever ailment i experience due to my neurotic and hypochrondiract like personality, and come to u guys for further opinions. does that answer ur question thunder??
 
zeplin7464 said:
im on 500 mg / week of test e starting friday and am going on my third week of 250mg of deca/wk
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good cycle right there. you splitting your test dose?
how long will the cycle run for? remember-it is advisable to to stop the deca two weeks before the test for the same reasons you were told not to run it by itself in the first place.
 
AAP said:
Add winstrol immediately.

One of the most popular cycles around from people I know of is deca + winstrol.

yeah, I came from the school of "Test W/ Every Cycle" thing too, but deca/winstrol fucking works.

Keep proviron on hand just in case you need a boost.
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I like having aap around again.
 
AAP said:
Add winstrol immediately.

One of the most popular cycles around from people I know of is deca + winstrol.

yeah, I came from the school of "Test W/ Every Cycle" thing too, but deca/winstrol fucking works.

Keep proviron on hand just in case you need a boost.
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You should post more. Seriously. I like the way you think, and your experience.
 
zeplin7464 said:
I really am under the care of a doctor...hes not an md, so he cant prescribe medecation, but he is a well respected d.c/sports medicine and hormone replacement thereapy specialist. he has done his fair shareof juice in his day since he is a bodyvuilder as well, and i pay him as my chiropractor, he gives me this other advice on the side on the down low. when he first showed me how to inject and did it for me the first time he obviously didnt charge for my visit, because it wasnt legit. when i have sports injuries he charges and my visits are documented. when i have questions or concerns about the juice he recomended for my back, he doesnt charge me, as he is a family friend. so therefore i feel i am bothering him; he recomended a deca only cycle w/ proviron if i could get it..HE DIDNT ORDER IT. with that being said i am trying to limit the amount of phone calls i give him every day about ever ailment i experience due to my neurotic and hypochrondiract like personality, and come to u guys for further opinions. does that answer ur question thunder??
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Whatever bro. I just don't see how you flame everyone here and then come back and ask for more help. I just think you didn't do much research at all.

You never addressed the fact that you flamed everyone, you just put up some story about your Dr. who isn't an MD.
 
I tell people about aap and they are like who is that guy. lmao gee only a elite mod. Need
to get over here and get your name back bro.
 
i apologize for flamin everybody, i was just tired of hearing the same response although i generally kept asking the same question. i know you are all just trying to help, i got frustrated. once agan i apologize to all!
 
ok bro, clean slate. Just listen to some of the guys here. They are very helpful and have your best interest at hand. Needtogetaas and AAP are both excellent choices to PM.
 
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