Someone Explain this....

[finabomber]

the pros and cons of working bi's and tri's together in a workout..

Finabomber

 

[The Shadow]

only con is that the blood is not concentrated in one body part but two.....

 

[havoc]

Been training my arms this way since 93, my arms are 20 cold, sure genetics plays a role, but I believe wholeheartedly that superesetting bi's and tri's creates a flow of blood in those muscles that can't be matched by any other pairing or singling out of bodyparts.
Now, I don't and never have quite understood training bi's with back or tri's with chest, regardless of what anyone says, you are taking away strength from the second body part trained in that type of combo, I don't want to hear that you use your tri's with chest and bi's with back, if it is to a degree where somewhat of a role is played by secondary muscles then one needs to learn how to execute the exercise properly. peace

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

I thought it was based on the motion, back and bi's being pulls, and chest and trie being pushes... thats the way I do it

 

[The Shadow]

If I train them separately its bis with chest and tris with back

 

[havoc]

If I train them separately its bis with chest and tris with back

Good stuff.

 

[WODIN]

I do an ARM DAY.

You would hang but you would pay latter on that day with spasms....

 

[dick tater]

I've trained bi's with chest, tri's with chest, bi's with back, and tri's with back, but the bi and tri together routine is the best.

Pros - Your arms get a tremendous pump and look big as hell.

Cons - Can't think of any.

I like to do bi's first.

Does anyone do tri's first?


Tater

 

[GinNJuice]

Well, I guess I'm one of "those" guys that does BIs and Back on the same day then Tris and Chest on another.

despite what you want to think about form, you work tris when you do chest and BIs when you do back..

To me, it's more about the recovery time, and not the workout. If I work BIs on one day and then back the next day or day-after-next, then I'm not getting enough recovery time for my BIs........ do you see what I mean?

BTW I do a 4 day split:
Chest/Tris
Back/BIs
Delts/Traps
Legs/Abs
Off day
Optional 2nd off day
..... repeat.

 

[GinNJuice]

..... Oh,

...and I switch up the order of the workout routine.... Ie... if in week-1 I started with BIs and then did Back..... then Week-2, I start with Back and then follow with BIs.

 

[kronk]

If I train them separately its bis with chest and tris with back

When I did splits and trained two body parts that how I did it as well.

Now its one a day 6 days a week

Chest
Bi's
Back
Legs
Tri's
Shoulders

Abs pretty much everyday but light.

 

[cockdezl]

Training opposing muscle groups brings into play antagonistic reflexes which allow for stronger contractions of the opposing muscles. When your biceps are trained, your triceps must come into activation to maintain stability of the joints and skeleton. This activation primes the triceps to contract harder when they are worked, thus allowing for greater recruitment of motor units.

Poliquin advocates this style of training for this reason.

Chest/Lats
Bi's/Tri's
Quads/Hams/Calves

 

[Latamier]

I like to train a major with a minor muscle group. Back and chest being major, with bis and tris being minor. Legs get their own day.

 

[casavant]

I've always favored bi's and tri's on the same day. Most of the time, I'll do supersets. Great pump.

 

[GinNJuice]

Training opposing muscle groups brings into play antagonistic reflexes which allow for stronger contractions of the opposing muscles. When your biceps are trained, your triceps must come into activation to maintain stability of the joints and skeleton. This activation primes the triceps to contract harder when they are worked, thus allowing for greater recruitment of motor units.

Poliquin advocates this style of training for this reason.

Chest/Lats
Bi's/Tri's
Quads/Hams/Calves

Ok, but it still doesn't address the recovery time issue that I spoke of.

Remember, we grow muscles while recovering, not while working out.

 

[WODIN]

GnJ i allow 48 hours for my arms to recover...that's plenty of time with active recovery as well. I do arms either on Monday or Friday and If I do them on monday then I do legs on Teusday.

 

[dballer]

bis and back... chest and tris.

 

[dballer]

and If I do them on monday then I do legs on Teusday.

when is this???


I have been waiting on Teusday... but it has never came. I think it only comes in Russia. I could be wrong though.

 

[vinylgroover]

Been training my arms this way since 93, my arms are 20 cold, sure genetics plays a role, but I believe wholeheartedly that superesetting bi's and tri's creates a flow of blood in those muscles that can't be matched by any other pairing or singling out of bodyparts.
Now, I don't and never have quite understood training bi's with back or tri's with chest, regardless of what anyone says, you are taking away strength from the second body part trained in that type of combo, I don't want to hear that you use your tri's with chest and bi's with back, if it is to a degree where somewhat of a role is played by secondary muscles then one needs to learn how to execute the exercise properly. peace

Bumpity bump bump

I never train synergistic muscles together in the same workout. I did back and bi's together once and thought, wtf am i doing....i'm taking away from one of my bodyparts.

 

[AAP]

I train chest and bis and then two days later, I train shoulder and tris.


Can someone post a good bi/tri supersetting workout? From what I understand this would totally blow your arm from squeezing the blood from one side to the other.

 

[casavant]

Skullcrushers/BB curls

Seated tri extension (db or cable)/DB preacher curl

Concentration curl/Kickbacks


- helluva good pump.

 

[havoc]

In respects to recovery time, I train my arms once every 2 weeks, same with shoulders. peace

 

[XBiker]

I switched to the bi/tri routine about six months ago.

I work it like so.

Bi / Tri

(Superset) Mid Bi / Mid Tri

Heavy Bi / Light Tri

Finishing with weighted dips (3 sets) to exhaustion.

Works very well and makes one leave the gym with an incredible arm pump.

 

[cockdezl]

Ok, but it still doesn't address the recovery time issue that I spoke of.

Remember, we grow muscles while recovering, not while working out.

I would like to see the research that shows that muscle tissue cannot repair even in times of chronic use. Too many bodybuilders think that this is common sense simply because it is repeated over and over. I think that real world evidence discounts this idea, since jobs like construction work would cause constant muscle inflammation and catabolism and finally atrophy. We know this is not true.

We do not know what is OPTIMAL in the area of muscular anabolism, but I do not think that science supports the idea of very long rest periods for optimal growth.