Someone design a cycle....

[crfpilot14]

Friend wants to gain strength and hardness. he is ~6'4 260lbs. ex college football player. he trains hard and he has done a few cycles in the past although not correctly. last cycle over a yr ago. i have some ideas but wanted some of the vets to give some input. he knows about diet and i know about PCT. something to put on some mass, but strength and hardness are the more important goals. i do not know what his current BF is but i would guess ~15%. thanks in advance.

 

[slat1]

hard to say w/o knowing what he has used and what quantities in the past!

 

[AMGETR]

Anadrol
Test
EQ
Primo ?

 

[patsfan1379]

dude, design your own cycle... or I can do it for you for $50.

 

[BionicBC]

Friend wants to gain strength and hardness. he is ~6'4 260lbs. ex college football player. he trains hard and he has done a few cycles in the past although not correctly. last cycle over a yr ago. i have some ideas but wanted some of the vets to give some input. he knows about diet and i know about PCT. something to put on some mass, but strength and hardness are the more important goals. i do not know what his current BF is but i would guess ~15%. thanks in advance.

Week 1-6 Tren
Week 1-12 Test Prop
Week 7-12 Winny or Anavar
Bionic

 

[Judo Tom]

at 15% bf if he wants to look hard he needs to adjust his diet roids wont burn off 20lbs of fat for him

if he has that much time off he should just try something like
500mg of test
500mg of eq

that should let him maintain all the muscle he has while dieting, add some strength and maybe even lbm depending on diet and training..

and get his diet in check once he is under 10% then he can mess with things like winny, anavar, masteron, whatever to really look defined but at 260 15%bf he has a lot of fat to loose to look cut

just tell him to start slow.. he doesnt want to cut his cals in half day one or he will lose a lot of that hard earned muscle

 

[boston basher]

I was thinking a test/deca than winny/var stack.

 

[crfpilot14]

thanks for the replies. i am not sure about the bf%. just a guess, but it is not below 10%. maybe 11-12. i was gonna recommend the test e/eq or the tren/prop. not sure if he is up for the ed/eod injections. i dont think he wants the typical BB physique. just more hardness and strength. but, like you said, diet is key. i will probably have him run the test for 12 wks and the eq for an additional 2-4wks. any objections?

BTW...i usually am the one to charge for the consultation since i am the MD!

 

[patsfan1379]

BTW...i usually am the one to charge for the consultation since i am the MD!

does that mean you can write me some "select" prescriptions??!!

 

[Slyder190]

Design your own cycle and then ask for opinions. Or tell your friend educate himself and get a clue if he wants to start using gear.

 

[crfpilot14]

Design your own cycle and then ask for opinions. Or tell your friend educate himself and get a clue if he wants to start using gear.

gee thanks.

 

[FknKnuckleHd]

If strength and hardness is all he's after do cycle of Tren @ 75mg eod for 8wks...that should do the trick.
FKH

 

[UA_Iron]

Design your own cycle and then ask for opinions. Or tell your friend educate himself and get a clue if he wants to start using gear.

true that...it is not a cynical answer either.

Why wouldn't you be completed educated on something before doing it? AAS is serious business, I wouldnt rely on a friend to tell me what to do.

 

[crfpilot14]

true that...it is not a cynical answer either.

Why wouldn't you be completed educated on something before doing it? AAS is serious business, I wouldnt rely on a friend to tell me what to do.

b/c his friend is a physician with a strong pharmacology background who just happens to be a member of this board! i can easily help him out i just wanted some other ideas. and the reply sounded flamish to me. but i expect no less from some people. i was a member here back in 98-99 when the flaming was way out of control. now it isnt so bad! but thanks for the advice.

 

[stevexpress]

Design your own cycle and then ask for opinions. Or tell your friend educate himself and get a clue if he wants to start using gear.

i agree