Some Doctors Are Clueless

[Nelson Montana]

I have a client whose doctor put him on HRT. Six months later he took him off to "see how he was doing." This idiot actually thought using testosterone would increase the patients natural testosterone. What an imbecile.

 

[stevesmi]

i disagree with your title. it should be "most doctors are clueless" not 'some'

i read an article today on yahoo about how doctors are causing bacteria strains to be resistant to anti-biotics because they are putting everyone who walks through their doors on them. they don't know the difference between a virus and bacteria, so not sure how they can figure out anything about AAS .. to be a doctor you need to have a rich daddy and be book smart.. it doesn't take actually understanding any of this shit or having a gift for science. a buddy of mine from high school became a doctor and this dude was 4.0 book smart, but he had no clue about how to train or eat ever when he would try to play any sports which proves my point.

 

[Nelson Montana]

i disagree with your title. it should be "most doctors are clueless" not 'some'

i read an article today on yahoo about how doctors are causing bacteria strains to be resistant to anti-biotics because they are putting everyone who walks through their doors on them. they don't know the difference between a virus and bacteria, so not sure how they can figure out anything about AAS .. to be a doctor you need to have a rich daddy and be book smart.. it doesn't take actually understanding any of this shit or having a gift for science. a buddy of mine from high school became a doctor and this dude was 4.0 book smart, but he had no clue about how to train or eat ever when he would try to play any sports which proves my point.

It's like doctors who put people on antibiotics for a flu -- which is a virus and not responsive to antibiotics.

 

[stevesmi]

Z-pak is no good anymore. bacteria is now resistant to it. anyone who has it might as well throw it into the trash. reason being its an anti-biotics with very low sides so docs were prescribing it for even scratchy throats or the common cold.. now its useless.

 

[dylangemelli]

You can't believe the pm's I get about what doctors recommend to guys all over the forums... Don't you ever think it's strange that when you go to the doctor, you wait like 30-45 minutes, to see them for less than five minutes and miraculously they have a diagnosis and a cure? They want your insurance money for your office visit, so they can move on to the next, to collect as much as they can each day... They just put people on whatever they want, without even knowing about half of it, just for the pay... It's absolutely ridiculous...

 

[Idobehigh]

A true story... I was having stomach pain/fever/Naseas I went to a doctor and told him what was happening I would drink a cup of water and throw up 10 mins later. He took a few X-rays came back in shock and said my gull bladder was ripped and that I needed to got to the hospital immediately at this point I was feeling worse after hearing the news I asked if I could drive over and not take an ambulance because I don't want to pay that hefty fee. He said he doesn't recommend it and his exact words will I don't think you could make it there in time or wait threw the waiting room..... Basically said I was going to die lol so I agreed, ambulance picked me up and I was rushed to the er and put in the procedure room to have emergency surgery. Two er doctors came in and was questioning the other doctor I first visited he wanted more tests done. So after x ray and ultra sound the er doctor said the original doctor was horribly wrong and my gallbladder was perfectly fine. He later found out I had gastritis and a heat stroke (I worked construction at the time in a Florida summer) he told me never to go back to him and recommended me to a new doctor lol just an update the new doctor prescribed me Prilosec for a month to help gastritis pain it worked however except the sides were low iron and anxiety... This was over a year ago and I am still trying to fight anxiety off.

 

[Arabian]

I have a client whose doctor put him on HRT. Six months later he took him off to "see how he was doing." This idiot actually thought using testosterone would increase the patients natural testosterone. What an imbecile.

I agree 100% Nelson. I had to go to an actual HRT specialist because my PCP had no clue what she was doing and never performed blood work after the initial screening and tried to tell me that 2 shots a month of 1 1/2 cc's of Test Cyp 250 were enough to keep me in equilibrium. LOL , thank god for good sources to compensate.

 

[stevesmi]

always get 3rd or 4th opinions guys.. i can't stress this enough .. doctors are NOT smart people at all.. in fact i can assure you they are dumber than most of the population. their work is guessing and like dylan said give you something and get out of their office so they can not be late for their tennis match. the best doctors ironically i have seen are the ones in free clinics, they actually give a shit about you although they are paid way less. if its a for profit hospital/clinic then they are gonna try and milk you for as much as they can, its a business!!

 

[ALIN]

I have a client whose doctor put him on HRT. Six months later he took him off to "see how he was doing." This idiot actually thought using testosterone would increase the patients natural testosterone. What an imbecile.

Most of these doctors are ignorant to the fact of proper TRT. The most common mistake I see is dosing once every 3-4 weeks,,,amongst many other things.

 

[RickRock13]

Some of the things that doctors do for their HRT patients is absolutely ridiculous. Nothing surprises me anymore.

 

[stevesmi]

Most of these doctors are ignorant to the fact of proper TRT. The most common mistake I see is dosing once every 3-4 weeks,,,amongst many other things.

i had an older guy tell me the other day the opposite.. his doc wouldn't give him injectable test because the doc said he would have to inject EOD atleast. i told him how E could be injected easily once or twice a week and his response was "well i'm gonna listen to my doctor and stick with the testim gel"

some people trust docs way too much when the research is right in front of their face

 

[UA_Iron]

i disagree with your title. it should be "most doctors are clueless" not 'some'

i read an article today on yahoo about how doctors are causing bacteria strains to be resistant to anti-biotics because they are putting everyone who walks through their doors on them. they don't know the difference between a virus and bacteria, so not sure how they can figure out anything about AAS .. to be a doctor you need to have a rich daddy and be book smart.. it doesn't take actually understanding any of this shit or having a gift for science. a buddy of mine from high school became a doctor and this dude was 4.0 book smart, but he had no clue about how to train or eat ever when he would try to play any sports which proves my point.

I don't agree with the practice at all, nor am I defending Doctors at all - but this all began when malpractice lawsuits started when people were hurt/injured/killed from not being prescribed antibiotics when they actually needed them.

If a Doctor has to make a decision between prescribing or not prescribing a strong general antibiotic for something with rather generic symptoms, many close to other diseases (both viral and bacterial), then he's going to go the socially irresponsible route and prescribe them. In his/her eyes, it's cheap insurance for a malpractice lawsuit.

If I remember the stats correctly: cattle and other livestock consume around 30 million pounds of antibiotics per year in the US, while I believe humans consume around 6 million pounds per year. We are creating a perfect storm (or soup) for superbugs.

I can only imagine that HRT ignorance among doctors must is extremely prevalent. Try telling most docs information you know and they try and write you off like you dont know what you're talking about - that one gets me the most.

 

[stevesmi]

I don't agree with the practice at all, nor am I defending Doctors at all - but this all began when malpractice lawsuits started when people were hurt/injured/killed from not being prescribed antibiotics when they actually needed them.

If a Doctor has to make a decision between prescribing or not prescribing a strong general antibiotic for something with rather generic symptoms, many close to other diseases (both viral and bacterial), then he's going to go the socially irresponsible route and prescribe them. In his/her eyes, it's cheap insurance for a malpractice lawsuit.

If I remember the stats correctly: cattle and other livestock consume around 30 million pounds of antibiotics per year in the US, while I believe humans consume around 6 million pounds per year. We are creating a perfect storm (or soup) for superbugs.

I can only imagine that HRT ignorance among doctors must is extremely prevalent. Try telling most docs information you know and they try and write you off like you dont know what you're talking about - that one gets me the most.

this is true.

the docs i hang out with i have asked this question and they are in denial that this goes on though.. or their attitude is "medicine is different" .. one of the dudes i consider a very smart doctor but he admits that a lot of times they have to throw darts at a board when they are trying to diagnose.. also they are most concerned with people who don't pay, and not as much malpractice lawsuits, atleast the guys i chill.. they have insurance for that, but having people not pay and having to treat anyway is what they hate the most and there is zero they can do about it cause you can't go after someone who doesn't have money or credit anyway. threatening to send to collections is no big deal when your credit score is 480

 

[Mh48500]

My buddy just told me that his 73 year old father who just recovered from a pretty severe stroke, is being prescribed TRT and the doc wants to get him to a 750 ng/dl level. I was blown away....I told my friend who is also 43 that I doubted he had a 750 test level.